You can't make this stuff up

steveinaz

IRS: Learners computer crashed, and we lost ALL of her emails.

Had enough yet? My fellow AMERICANS, something is very wrong here. There isn't sand deep enough to bury your head in on this new development. But I'm sure many will try.

F1nut

Try that one with the IRS and see what it gets you.

BlueFox

Do you have a link?

I searched Google News with this "irs Learners computer crash", and this is the only link.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?161871-You-can-t-make-this-stuff-up&p=2056934

steveinaz

http://news.yahoo.com/irs-computer-crashed-erased-lois-lerner-emails-203605784.html;_ylt=A0SO80fVc5tTcWYASW5XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMDlwNmx2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1NNRTM5OF8x

steveinaz

...and let me guess, they have no back-up email server, and the HDD disk surface took "physical" damage, so IT can't be recovered either, right? I'm growing tired of being thought of as an idiot, and having my intelligence insulted repeatedly.

BlueFox

Okay. Thanks. Pretty stupid move if intentional. Maybe a kid can get away with this to their parents, but not in this case. At the worst, they just need to check emails in the other departments for any emails from her. I like the comparison to Nixon's 18 minute gap.

Mikey081057

It can be recovered, and they need to subpoena the IT guys and get all the archives too... that will have all the deleted emails. Someone needs to call Bravo Sierra on this B@*ch and put her behind bars till she comes clean... No one will be willing to do time for the anointed one.

Mikey081057

Keiko wrote: »

This

Think about it, we lie to them, it's perjury. They lie to us, it's just politics.

All of them have forgotten who they work for and that needs to change quickly,,, Rome is burning!!!

Mikey081057

Keiko wrote: »

I'm sure if they call the NSA, someone can provide them a backup disc. No?

So as an IT director in a public co. we were required to archive all emails to be SOX compliant... and when we where called on to produce emails we did it in a couple of days.... this BS that comes out of this administration is high crimes and misdemeanor stuff and they need to be held accountable... But when EH over in justice has your back... it all gets slimy...

tonyb

Mikey081057 wrote: »

So as an IT director in a public co. we were required to archive all emails to be SOX compliant... and when we where called on to produce emails we did it in a couple of days.... this BS that comes out of this administration is high crimes and misdemeanor stuff and they need to be held accountable... But when EH over in justice has your back... it all gets slimy...

True...but you do realize Sox laws don't apply to them, right ? Nor does insider trading laws and a host of others. Who is going to hold them accountable ? The other side ? They are just as culpable in many instances.

Ever ask yourself why someone would spend millions and millions of dollars to obtain a 175k a year job ?

IMHO, congress should be a part-time job with a salary that reflects that. 401K's instead of monster pensions and a HC system that's the same as the peoples. Least of all, they should also abide by the same laws and have stiff automatic consequences if they don't.

Heard a good analogy the other day, won't say who it's from because that will just start a sh&t storm. Went something like this....

" There was a time when we LOVED people and USED things, today we LOVE things and USE people. Until we switch that back around, nothing changes".

dkg999

Maybe Mr. Snowden can find them.

[Deleted User]

good one!

dkg999 wrote: »

Maybe Mr. Snowden can find them.

Msabot1

Heck..you prosecute and convict every crook in the executive branch and legislature...you wouldn't be able to fill a dozen seats on the Senate floor...nothing will be done about any of this...or any other scandle that this administration has generated....just sweeping the dirt under the rug is the norm now....

steveinaz

You can bet that HDD is GONE. That leaves us with nothing but "accusation" and "shaming" of course it's impossible to shame anyone in todays society, because little integrity exists anymore. IOW, unless someone inside the IRS comes forward, and has physical evidence--Learner is OFF the hook.

This should scare everyone, regardless of political stance.

smglbrth

..., and this surprises..., who? Bueller..., Bueller...

nooshinjohn

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nooshinjohn

There is more I would love to add here in this thread, but all of it would get me banned...

westmassguy

nooshinjohn wrote: »

There is more I would love to add here in this thread, but all of it would get me banned...

I know the feeling. I'm on Kens good side, and don't want to screw that up. She's just the tip if the proverbial iceberg, it's everywhere

cnh

That's not fair, boys. Everyone hates the IRS, left and right! They're an easy target, like hitting a ball that's on Hit Stick. lol

Death and Taxes!

cnh

BlueFox

Personally, I wish they would cancel tax exempt status for all groups, organizations, etc. You make money, then pay taxes.

steveinaz

Close the IRS. Create a flat tax based on income, do away with all write-offs--and adjust tax rates to compensate for "common" write-offs. Automate the process so there are no annual tax forms. They get W2's already, this isn't rocket science--but it DOES step on the toes of special interest groups who use write-offs as leverage. Tax revenue would be collected automatically, so no more tax dead-beats (that we all pay for), and bye-bye to complicated tax forms every dreaded April.

WagnerRC

exactly! well said

Willow

nooshinjohn wrote: »

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Nothing wrong with some manscaping... give the guy a break!

Timothy Smith

cnh wrote: »

That's not fair, boys. Everyone hates the IRS, left and right! They're an easy target, like hitting a ball that's on Hit Stick. lol

Death and Taxes!

cnh

This may go way beyond the usual reasons people hate the IRS.

Using the "non political" IRS to silence and hobble the fund-raising ability of your political opponents is incredible malfeasance.

Lois Learner pleading the 5th before congress was ugly and suspicious.

Reporting two years later that (surprise!) all of the e-mails that may incriminate you, that congress has been asking for, have been mysteriously and accidentally deleted is bizzarre.

This would seem to indicate that what was in those e-mails was far worse than the political and personal fallout from deleting or "losing" them.

dudeinaroom

What's worse is that they have hard copies of all of the e-mails as well, where did they go?

tonyb

dudeinaroom wrote: »

What's worse is that they have hard copies of all of the e-mails as well, where did they go?

That's the thing....the law requires hard copies but they are claiming they never did. Now, if your going to be accused of breaking the law, which offense would get you the least amount of concern ?

exalted512

steveinaz wrote: »

Close the IRS. Create a flat tax based on income, do away with all write-offs--and adjust tax rates to compensate for "common" write-offs. Automate the process so there are no annual tax forms. They get W2's already, this isn't rocket science--but it DOES step on the toes of special interest groups who use write-offs as leverage. Tax revenue would be collected automatically, so no more tax dead-beats (that we all pay for), and bye-bye to complicated tax forms every dreaded April.

But how many jobs would we lose because of this?! haha

EndersShadow

exalted512 wrote: »

But how many jobs would we lose because of this?! haha

I'm ok with the government shedding jobs lol... its the private sector ones that I care about

EndersShadow

All I can say is when we finally can look back at this administration as a whole in say 10 years I have a feeling the overall sentiment will be a LOT different than it is now because we will finally have all the information they are currently hiding until after elections next year.

steveinaz

Latest news: The hard drive was thrown away. Shocking right?

See incompetence, while shameful, isn't a crime. So this has worked out well for everyone concerned, except the taxpayer.