Cool SPL calculator

organ
organ Posts: 4,969
edited February 2004 in 2 Channel Audio
http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

Not sure about the amplifier power. Are we suppose to put in the power for one channel or both?

I can hit 117.1 db with the Klipsch and NAD with 120w for amp power. That's just one channel.

With 240w for amp power (2CH), I get 120.1db:eek: .

Those spl readings are using the RMS amplifier power. CRAP!

Maurice
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited February 2004
    Oh well, I'm only at 113.5. I severely doubt it even gets that loud in a 6000 ft^3
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  • JDOGG
    JDOGG Posts: 433
    edited February 2004
    100 watts amp power,distance 4 ft., 96dB sens., 2 speakers,in corner, 4 ft. distance from listening position=
    123.3 dB at listening position!
    Panasonic VIERA 46" 1080p plasma
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Klipsch RF-7(bi-amped)
    Klipsch RF-25
    Xbox 360 with HD DVD
    Playstation 3
    Cobalt Cable
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,544
    edited February 2004
    Distance 4 feet? Talk about a near-field experience.
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  • weavercr
    weavercr Posts: 289
    edited February 2004
    polks I get 119.3 RMS

    my klipsch I get 132.7 RMS

    same amp a/b switch. Denon POA2400a

    Neve have cranked the klispch to max yet, too loud plus CD skips before you get there.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited February 2004
    Says with the mains, RT5, RTi70 - 2 545, 1 535. One channel, I can hit.......118db

    Says my Dad's can hit 121...

    I've heard them go MUCH louder than that..........................

    Says my entire system can hit up to 130db.....
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited February 2004
    Weavercr,

    Isn't that amp 200wpc ?

    Assuming your Polks are 89 db ?! , you'd have to be 2 feet away to get that SPL.

    Nice Head Phones ... LOL ...
    Rick
    HT+ Sunfire TG IV, Dual CG Sig II's, CinePro 1K2, Oppo 981, Audio Technica PL120, Polk SRT's & F/X1000's, Samsung 71" DLP
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by weavercr
    polks I get 119.3 RMS

    my klipsch I get 132.7 RMS

    Holy crap! Which model do you own? Klipschorn?

    Maurice
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,544
    edited February 2004
    "my klipsch I get 132.7 RMS"

    With your head inside the horn....maybe :rolleyes:
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited February 2004
    ROTFL ... Well the older K-Horns could muster 104 db some how so it's theoretically possible, but can you say industrial deafness ? Besides, louder hardly makes it better ... that's the Bose philosiphy.
    Rick
    HT+ Sunfire TG IV, Dual CG Sig II's, CinePro 1K2, Oppo 981, Audio Technica PL120, Polk SRT's & F/X1000's, Samsung 71" DLP
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited February 2004
    My Dad's Klipsch Chorus are 102db nominal. 120db.....is easy for them things. He only has 270, they can take up to 1000 watts.....
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,544
    edited February 2004
    How can they be 102dB nominal? There is no such measurement. The only nominal measurement is the ohms rating.

    Personally, I consider that chart to be flawed at best.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited February 2004
    Dang Weavercr! I thought I was doing good with my 120db Altec VOTs.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited February 2004
    FREQUENCY RESPONSE:35Hz-20kHz±3dB
    SENSITIVITY:102dB @ 1watt/1meter
    POWER HANDLING:100 watts maximum continuous (1000 watts peak)
    NOMINAL IMPEDANCE:8 ohms
    ENCLOSURE TYPE: Sealed - Passive Radiator
    DRIVE COMPONENTS:Three-way design using one 1" (2.54cm) phenolic diaphragm compression driver tweeter with a 90°x40° Exponential horn, one 1.5" (3.81cm) phenolic diaphragm compression driver midrange with a 90°x40° Exponential horn and one 15" (38.1cm) fiber-composite cone woofer, 15" Passive Radiator (Rear Firing)
    TWEETER:K-79-K 1" (2.54cm) Phenolic diaphragm compression driver
    HIGH FREQUENCY HORN:90°x40° Exponential Horn
    HF CROSSOVER:7000Hz
    MIDRANGE:K-57-K 1.5" (3.81cm) Phenolic diaphragm compression driver
    MID FREQUENCY HORN:90°x40° Exponential Horn
    MF CROSSOVER:650Hz
    WOOFER:K-48-E 15" (38.1cm) Fiber-composite cone
    DIMENSIONS:39" (99.06cm) x 18.5" (46.99cm) x 15.5" (39.37cm)
    WEIGHT:89 lbs. (40.4kg)
    ENCLOSURE MATERIAL:Medium density fiberboard construction (MDF)
    FINISHES:Walnut Oil, Walnut Lacquer, Oak Oil, Oak Lacquer, Finished Black
    YEARS BUILT:1987 – 1990

    I had to edit the specs on it, he has the II series and I couldnt find those specs! But I DID.....find the Original Klipsch Chorus specs......
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • weavercr
    weavercr Posts: 289
    edited February 2004
    I have the KLF-30

    FREQUENCY RESPONSE:
    36Hz-20kHz±3dB
    SENSITIVITY:
    102dB @ 1watt/1meter
    POWER HANDLING:
    200 watts maximum continuous (800 watts peak)
    NOMINAL IMPEDANCE:
    8 ohms
    ENCLOSURE TYPE:
    Bass reflex via dual rear-mounted ports
    DRIVE COMPONENTS:
    Three-way system using one 1" (2.54cm) polymer diaphragm compression driver tweeter with a 90°x40° Exponential horn, one 1.5" (3.81cm) polymer diaphragm compression driver midrange with a 90°x60° Tractrix® Horn and two 12" poly CG cone woofers
    TWEETER:
    K-79-K 1" (2.54cm) Polymer diaphragm compression driver
    HIGH FREQUENCY HORN:
    90°x40° Exponential Horn
    HF CROSSOVER:
    7000Hz
    MIDRANGE:
    K-52 1.5" (3.81cm) Polymer diaphragm compression driver
    MID FREQUENCY HORN:
    90°x60° Tractrix® Horn
    MF CROSSOVER:
    825Hz
    WOOFER:
    Two K-31-K 12" (30.48cm) Poly Carbon Graphite cones
    DIMENSIONS:
    45.25" (114.94cm) x 14" (35.56cm) x 16" (40.64cm)
    WEIGHT:
    102 lbs. (46.31kg)


    Denon POA2400a is 200 wps
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited February 2004
    114 here
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  • weavercr
    weavercr Posts: 289
    edited February 2004
    F1NUT

    Klipschorn are 104dB @ 1watt/1meter
    Lascala are 104dB @ 1watt/1meter

    and they have several that are 103. When you talk about dynamic range Klipsch speakers have polk beat hands down. I sill like my polks better. But when you want to crank it up and listen to rock and roll the KLF-30s are hard to beat. Everything else I like my Polks better. Their great to bring down to the garage when I have a pig roast and crank them up. I dont have any close neighbors, plus I envite them to the pig roast......I am on 4 acres in the semi - country with the suburbs slowly approaching.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,544
    edited February 2004
    Weaver,

    I have no doubt that Kilpsch will play loud, but do you really listen at a distance of 4 feet? That's kinda like wearing headphones.

    The problem I have with that chart is the placement of speakers. Example, I have mine 5.5" from the back wall and 3 feet from the corner. The chart doesn't give you the option of calculating that measurment.

    This is as close as I could get with my set up.
    Speakers: 90dB
    Power: 475 wpc
    Distance: 6 feet
    # of Speakers: 2
    Close to a corner
    Estimate: 120.5dB

    Distance at 4 feet,
    Estimate: 124.1dB

    Using a SPL meter from the 6 foot distance I got to 115dB at only 10:30 on the volume dial. That's barely warmed up for my amp and loud enough to be uncomfortable.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by F1nut

    Using a SPL meter from the 6 foot distance I got to 115dB at only 10:30 on the volume dial. That's barely warmed up for my amp and loud enough to be uncomfortable.

    HOLY SHITE! F1 you'll be breaken windows at 11:30:eek:

    HBomb
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,544
    edited February 2004
    Hehe.....I don't think the SDA's can do more than 120-125dB, so I think it's safe. The glass does rattle though. :D
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited February 2004
    my glass rattles too but i only have i70s......must be that the speakers is a foot away from the window:p
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,640
    edited February 2004
    My glass dosnt rattle...

    it flexes...

    IF you go outside and watch my window it actually is moving in and out...

    I play it loud, but its mostly M&K. Bass comes in (according to RS meter) at about...5-6db louder than the music. Which I don't believe
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Calverley
    Calverley Posts: 9
    edited February 2004
    Come on guys. We've all got SPL meters right. Let's crank it and measure - test the calc. My calc says at 75 wpc (Denon 1604) and average 90 dB for 5 speakers - 103 dB. Some day when the family is out, I'll check that!
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited February 2004
    No SPL meter yet. Are analog meters more accurate than the digital ones?

    Maurice
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited February 2004
    No ...
    Rick
    HT+ Sunfire TG IV, Dual CG Sig II's, CinePro 1K2, Oppo 981, Audio Technica PL120, Polk SRT's & F/X1000's, Samsung 71" DLP
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited February 2004
    2 channel - at 100.2

    HT set - 110

    Just for S&G, i tried an actual at those sweet spots, and came up with lower readings.
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