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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
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    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
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    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    A Perfect Circle "Thirteenth Step" - FLAC

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    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    The Dresden Dolls redbook;
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
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    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    Benjamin Orr promo vinyl;
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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    promo vinyl; Joe Vitale and Don Felder add to the proceedings
    Thomas does a cover of 'Badge'
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    LP sides tonight. Had to grab the cover to make sure
    Eric Clapton wasn't on this one. Nope, Trevor Burton and Robbie Blunt.
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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    promo vinyl
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
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    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • lunazul
    lunazul Posts: 781
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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,008
    Dave Rawlings Machine -- Nashville Obsolete
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    Morning Mr. Dromunds
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
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    Monaural, digitally remastered recordings from 1939-41.

    Mellow. Good listening for a rainy, gray autumn morning in New England!
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,008
    Good afternoon, Red. Lol
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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    Moose68Bash wrote: »
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    Monaural, digitally remastered recordings from 1939-41.

    Mellow. Good listening for a rainy, gray autumn morning in New England!

    True greatness.
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  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 9,810
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    The Firebirds ~ Light My Fire
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    Because I am The Pumpkinking


    A Kind Word Is An Easy Gift To Give
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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DtvLxrL9VA
    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    zumbini wrote: »
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    Yngwie can do some serious shredding! Rising Force was still his best.
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
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    Good SQ, considering that the original tracks were recorded in 1945-52.
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • zumbini
    zumbini Posts: 654
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeMunKa7Ark&list=PL160378217E70B17C
    Main System
    Carver Gear: C-11 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), M-500 (refit), M-500t(x2) (refit), M-1.0t (refit & upgraded), SD/A 490t, TX-11b
    Other Electronics: Behringer CX3400, Behringer FBQ3102, Furman PS-8R-II, Nikko NPS-1, Teac C-3RX, Technics SL-D303
    Speakers: Legacy Audio Custom Super Satellites (new drivers & bi-ampable XOs), Legacy Audio Custom Subwoofers

    Carver Office System: C-2 (refit & modded, w/balanced outs), DTL-50, M-200t, TX-2, Musical Fidelity X-10D, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/4 DA-10 satellites)

    Workshop System: Carver MXR-130 receiver, Carver DTL-50 CDP, Design Acoustics DA-30 (DA-20LF sub w/2 DA-10 satellites)

    Son's System: Carver CT-7, Carver DTL-200MK2, Carver M-1.5t (refit), Hitachi PS-38 (TT), Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl, Klipsch KG2.5, PSB Century Subsonic 2i powered sub

    Not In Use or Need Repair: Denon DCM-35 (CDC), Teac X10R (RTR), Technics SL-1200MK1 (TT), Yamaha CDX-820 (CDP)
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
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    redbook
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