Made in Japan Sony, Onkyo, Yamaha CD Changers

SawaSun
SawaSun Posts: 17
edited April 2014 in Electronics
What do you all think of Made in Japan Onkyo, Sony (non ES) and Yamaha CD Changers from 1987-1993 sound and build quality wise? How would they compare to a new Onkyo DX-C390? I just bought a new Onkyo DX-C390 (will be delivered soon) but
with a lack of CD changers available in the new and used (in excellent condition) market, I'd like to have an decent sounding inexpensive backup unit in case this Onkyo breaks. It took me a few months to settle on the new Onkyo DX-C390 and being without a changer wasn't very pleasant, so having a decent sounding inexpensive backup unit temporarily would be great.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited April 2014
    Changers never were known for their sound quality.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2014
    Changers do represent various compromises in build and sound quality.

    But as they go. That Onkyo is no worse than the others in that 200-300 dollar range. Probably one of the better changers was the Sony SCD-CE595. it not only played CDs but also SACDs at a nice price point.

    And WHAT did Sony do? They discontinued it! Oh well!

    There were also some Sony ES (series) changers that weren't bad. But try finding one!

    I think you're OK with the Onkyo for now.

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2014
    You are doing things the hard way. Rip the CDs to a PC and use it as a music server. Then you can create playlists, play songs in random order, etc. CD changers are 20th century technology, and not very good 20th century technolgy either.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2014
    BlueFox has a point. But if we continue along this path there will be nothing LEFT for us to do. We'll all be like those fat boys and girls in WALL-E, lol. And then we'll no longer be necessary.

    Nothing wrong with opening CD cases and putting CDs in a player, consider it a "meditative" exercise. Sort of like the Japanese Tea Ceremony! Tradition, meaning, culture? Nah, voice command everything because it saves time. But TIME is ALL we have, unfortunately!

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  • pglbook
    pglbook Posts: 2,222
    edited April 2014
    I have a Rotel RCC 1055 CD changer (5 disc changer).

    I love it and highly recommend it.

    It is bult like a tank, has wonderful sound reproduction, and can play SACD, HD, etc.
  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited April 2014
    None of the changers mentioned so far measure up to (or weigh 1/3 as much for that matter) to a CAL CL-10 or CL-15. Use them either with or without a separate DAC.

    Get one and thank me later.
  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 9,826
    edited April 2014
    I still have a Marantz PMD 371 sitting on a shelf. I really don't remember
    if it was worth a damn sound wise.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited April 2014
    DaveMuell wrote: »
    None of the changers mentioned so far measure up to (or weigh 1/3 as much for that matter) to a CAL CL-10 or CL-15. Use them either with or without a separate DAC.

    You bring up a matter that I don't think many consider, the weight. All the better players have heft, some weighing more than a lot of power amps. This is important as vibrations from sounds waves can and will affect the playback. One can use isolation devices and apply copious amounts of damping material such as Dynamat Extreme, but they only go so far.
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  • SawaSun
    SawaSun Posts: 17
    edited April 2014
    I think some of the late 1980's changers even had Burr Brown DAC's in then (albeit single only).
  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited April 2014
    Back in the day, I always had a basic Sony changer in the home and Alpine or Pioneer changer in the car. However, I remember my jaw dropped when I saw the $1700-$1800 Sony SCD-C555ES at Crutchfield. That unit is about 25lbs and seems to review well. I always wanted to try one of those ES units. IMO, Sony did a lot of work in regards to transports in their ES lines and above...they once even offered an $8000 Audiophile Car Audio Sony XES-Z50 system that included a 10 disc changer....seen that system in some seriously over the top competitions systems back in the day.

    Well, I think a music server is the way to go today...maybe by the time I get a system together I will have the collection all on a drive? However nothing wrong if a guy wants to put in a disc no different than a guy wanting to spin a record.
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  • ALSATIAN in USA
    ALSATIAN in USA Posts: 127
    edited April 2014
    I have a SONY CA7ES cd changer ($25 at pawn shop) and he sound as good via TOSLINK or RCA out to SHERWOOD P965...ES are wonderful... SONY ES are made in Malaisia!
  • ALSATIAN in USA
    ALSATIAN in USA Posts: 127
    edited April 2014
    Just for to say don't buy any SONY whose not ES... ES are cheap and easy to find. Don't forget 5 channel 9000ES power amp http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-ES-TA-N9000ES-AMP-AUDIOPHILE-Stereo-/390816655718?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item5afe7ce966 250$ for audiophile!!!!!
  • czarodzi
    czarodzi Posts: 38
    edited April 2014
    cnh wrote: »
    BlueFox has a point. But if we continue along this path there will be nothing LEFT for us to do. We'll all be like those fat boys and girls in WALL-E, lol. And then we'll no longer be necessary.

    Nothing wrong with opening CD cases and putting CDs in a player, consider it a "meditative" exercise. Sort of like the Japanese Tea Ceremony! Tradition, meaning, culture? Nah, voice command everything because it saves time. But TIME is ALL we have, unfortunately!

    cnh

    I like the point about physically playing disks as a part of the exercise, like taking a record out of its sleeve, putting it on the turntable, and lowering the tonearm. And then you have to stand up halfway through to flip it! Playing music off CD's a disk at a time is part of the fun. Having to feed five or more at a time into a changer, and keep track of five CD cases instead of one, and remembering which disk is in which slot, I think that's too much trouble.