Finally....

tonybtonyb Posts: 31,428
edited April 2014 in Going Digital
....found one. Been looking for a Cary Xciter dac to use with my Sonos for like forever. Decided to start cruising craigslist from various cities, east coast....west coast. San Francisco finally coughed one up, with an external power supply no less for 6 bones. Probably be a week before I get it into the system and we shall see if the hype is warranted. Can't wait....been way too long without a dac in the mix and currently just using the receiver. How can it be worse than that, right ?

I'll throw up a review after I get it, unlike Phil who you have to send out the Marines to squeeze a review out of. lol
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  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,998
    edited March 2014
    He shoots...HE SCORES!!!!!
  • 11tsteve11tsteve Posts: 1,173
    edited March 2014
    it has been a good week for personal DAC searches. Congrats!
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,109
    edited March 2014
    Now remember, you offered the review.... don't fret when the Marines get rerouted to the House of Tony.


    Congrats on finally filling that void. I look forward to your impressions.
  • ThortonThorton Posts: 1,243
    edited March 2014
    Congrats Tony! That's persistence. Hopefully it meets your expectations. Can't wait to read the review.
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,580
    edited March 2014
    Awesome Tony, I know it's been a journey of patience and hope all works out.

    This hobby has great rewards and savings with a lil' patience.

    Congrats
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
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  • polkfarmboypolkfarmboy Posts: 5,724
    edited March 2014
    Congrats Tony and if you ever need it broken or smashed up then shoot me a pm.
  • pearsall001pearsall001 Posts: 4,335
    edited March 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    ....found one. Been looking for a Cary Xciter dac to use with my Sonos for like forever. Decided to start cruising craigslist from various cities, east coast....west coast. San Francisco finally coughed one up, with an external power supply no less for 6 bones. Probably be a week before I get it into the system and we shall see if the hype is warranted. Can't wait....been way too long without a dac in the mix and currently just using the receiver. How can it be worse than that, right ?

    I'll throw up a review after I get it, unlike Phil who you have to send out the Marines to squeeze a review out of. lol

    It's about time you opened up that wallet & dusted off the cob webs!!!! LOL!!! Nice score Tony, can't wait for your review. I've been a little laxed for my review but it's a coming, I promise. Again congrats & enjoy!!
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,998
    edited March 2014
    Sweet!!! Nice pickup!!
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,428
    edited March 2014
    It's about time you opened up that wallet & dusted off the cob webs!!!! LOL!!! Nice score Tony, can't wait for your review. I've been a little laxed for my review but it's a coming, I promise. Again congrats & enjoy!!

    Ha....thanks Phil. Yeah man, the wallet has been looking at me cross eyed lately. Home repairs, trips, newer car, and less coin coming in the door all add up to a "closed for repairs" sign on the old wallet.
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    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,112
    edited March 2014
    Nice, enjoy. Hope it's all you expect it to be.

    H9
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,816
    edited March 2014
    Looks like your waiting paid off for your wallet. Hopefully it also pays off for your ears once you get it in.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • OldfatdogsOldfatdogs Posts: 1,885
    edited March 2014
    Hey Tony,glad you found your missing piece of the puzzle hope it works well for ya.

    Dan
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,428
    edited March 2014
    Oldfatdogs wrote: »
    Hey Tony,glad you found your missing piece of the puzzle hope it works well for ya.

    Dan

    If it does work, then another piece will be in the hunt....a tubed pre.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,109
    edited March 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    If it does work, then another piece will be in the hunt....a tubed pre.

    Might I recommend the Shuguang S200mk that is on sale at Grant Fidelity right now for under $500. Very nice pre for the money.
  • DollarDaveDollarDave Posts: 2,590
    edited March 2014
    DSkip wrote: »
    Might I recommend the Shuguang S200mk that is on sale at Grant Fidelity right now for under $500. Very nice pre for the money.

    Do you have a link for that you can post? I looked around pretty good, but didn't find it.
  • OldfatdogsOldfatdogs Posts: 1,885
    edited March 2014
    If it does work, then another piece will be in the hunt....a tubed pre.

    Tony,any thing in particular catch your eye?Or on your want list?

    Dan
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,109
    edited March 2014
    DaveMuell wrote: »
    Do you have a link for that you can post? I looked around pretty good, but didn't find it.

    I don't see it listed anymore. Looks like they may have sold them all. Sorry for the useless recommendation Tony.

    This one MIGHT still be available:

    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/tube-shuguang-classic-s200mk-tube-pre-amplifier-2014-01-24-preamplifiers-91724
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,428
    edited March 2014
    Oldfatdogs wrote: »
    Tony,any thing in particular catch your eye?Or on your want list?

    Dan

    A few things, that Anthem pre 2l we had in the flea market....should have grabbed that. Have an Anthem integrated local was thinking about just using the pre amp section. I know if the wallet cries too much, B&k pre/pro's can be had for a pittance these days and offer up some fine SQ.

    Digging up what I can on the dac, some users state it sounds just like a Cary cdp, which I like anyway. Others claim adding an audiophillio 2 brings it up past a W4S dac2. Don't think I'd add that though unless I can find a used one for a decent price. Either way, hard to find a review that doesn't like it. The main reasons why this dac has gone by the wayside have been no remote, and no DSD. Even though the usb is limited, it still reclocks the signal and most say sounds a step or 2 up from the digital connections. My sole purpose however is for the Cullen modded Sonos, and maybe the cdp so I really don't need usb or volume control. My main concern has always been SQ, and it seems this dac has that in spades. The Rega dac was also on my radar, but the Cary seemed to fit my preferences.

    I guess if your like me, an old analog bonehead, jumping into the digital age has it's pro's and con's and we simply seek ways to make our digital sound more analog...if that makes any sense to you. Just tired of using a cheap receiver for music when I have great speakers and a great amp...seems like a waste. Thus the Cary dac and a tubed pre should elevate my pleasure leaps and bounds. If not, I'm selling it all and buying a plane ticket to Portofino and the wife and I can live good....for a few days anyway. LOL
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 7,162
    edited March 2014
    Other complaints about the Xciter were no remote and balanced outputs, but they did that to keep the cost down and still use high quality components where it matters. In regards to DSD, I have the capability but still use my DAC mostly with 16/44 files and it sounds great. I think you made a good choice.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,428
    edited March 2014
    BTW, I'm not opposed to a solid state pre either, any suggestions besides the B&k I mentioned ? I know some of you guys like the Parasound P3, some don't. Forte...mixed bag as well.

    Saw a PS Audio 5 pre on craigslist....Proceed too, which if memory serves, Proceed gear was top dog in their day. Gotta have a remote though. Just not seeing anything in SS that would be better than the B&k...for the going prices anyway.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,109
    edited March 2014
    I've never heard anything from Forte, but I'd love to some day. Although, I'd probably want to get my ears on Threshold gear first. I believe Forte was a budget line with trickle down tech from Threshold, correct?


    It sounds to me like you ought to just grab a B&K Ref 20 or 30 to tide you over and keep as a spare if you do end up getting into a tubed pre.
  • teekay0007teekay0007 Posts: 2,152
    edited March 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    Decided to start cruising craigslist from various cities, east coast....west coast. San Francisco finally coughed one up, with an external power supply no less for 6 bones.

    Bit of a sidetrack, but a valid one, none the less....

    Tony, I'm curious as to how you paid for this with any security on your purchase. I've seen items posted on CL in other cities that I've been interested in, but pretty much dropped the idea when I thought about payment security and any recourse I'd have if the deal went south.

    Without a feedback system in place like on eBay and a team at the ready to fight my battles for me like at PayPal (for eBay and other business-to-consumer transactions) what can I do if the guy on the other end is the same guy that's always sending PFB busted stuff? I always picture some guy out at the bar, say in San Francisco [ ;-) ] for instance, with his pals havin' a good ol' time, sayin' "Drinks are on me folks, some bonehead in MN sent me some cash today!"

    No, I'm not bringing this up to make you worry, I am genuinely curious as I would like to take advantage of some distant opportunities if they should present themselves in the future.

    I actually had an amp listed on our local CL quite a while back and ended up selling it and shipping it to a guy a few states away. I packed it up pretty much bomb proof and got it out the door the day after he'd made his PayPal payment. Then I got to thinking, what if I wasn't me and just decided to waltz off with the dough. It would have been pretty unlikely that the guy would have come all the way out here to kick my rear end over a few hundred bucks.

    Any insight you or anyone else would have would be greatly appreciated.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,816
    edited March 2014
    I am guessing he has someone local he knows there.

    I wouldn't mind helping out a local polkie within reason if someone saw something local to me in Indy and I was able to help.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,428
    edited March 2014
    It all depends, first...you have to talk to the people over the phone. This allows you some sense of validity and you can judge for yourself if the seller is a bonehead or legit audio guy. Then you need to get home addresses, A seller not willing to collect funds at his house is a red flag, but not necessarily a deal killer as lots of people these days use post office boxes. You ask for more pics, so as to determine if some dude isn't just cherry picking off the internet...ask questions about other items in the pics to see if he knows. Get them to talk...listen for any pushy salesmen types. If you feel pressured to send funds right away...walk away. You also have to remember they don't know you either and craigslist scams are common with out of state buyers. Talk on the phone, feel comfortable about who your dealing with and the type of person your dealing with. In my case, we talked 3 times on the phone so I felt comfortable with the dude....and he with me. I then google the dudes name and see if any red flags come up, you then can google his addy, get pics of his house and verify his employment....maybe check social media if your so inclined. Ask if they belong to audio forums, look them up. Doesn't take long....but in the end, you really have no guarantees....you take a risk....a calculated risk. Like buying a used car from a stranger.

    Ebay...paypal, offer some protections but they too can't guarantee the absence of scum sellers. Many have been burned by both, including myself. Have yet to be burned on craigslist though mainly because I can screen people via the internet verses a link in cyber space. A seller that won't talk to you over the phone, give out his addy, walk away....simple as that.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,816
    edited March 2014
    What Tony's not admitting is that due to his Italian heritage he is allowed certain "perks" which include access to Guido and Vido and their network of "associates" who can "gently" ensure transactions go smooth :wink:
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • teekay0007teekay0007 Posts: 2,152
    edited March 2014
    Thanks Tony. And yes, I know what you're talking about on sort of getting a vibe for if the situation just feels right or not. I guess I was hoping there was a way with more security of conducting these sorts of transactions that I wasn't yet aware of. Maybe the PFB transactions of late just have me a little spooked.

    Hey Dan, you might be onto something there: Tonyb's G&V Nudge Network - "For when your deal goes all PFB on you!" ;-)
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,109
    edited March 2014
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    Thanks Tony. And yes, I know what you're talking about on sort of getting a vibe for if the situation just feels right or not. I guess I was hoping there was a way with more security of conducting these sorts of transactions that I wasn't yet aware of. Maybe the PFB transactions of late just have me a little spooked.

    Hey Dan, you might be onto something there: Tonyb's G&V Nudge Network - "For when your deal goes all PFB on you!" ;-)

    Every one of PFB's transactions has one factor in common...
  • OldfatdogsOldfatdogs Posts: 1,885
    edited March 2014
    Tony,sounds like you have a good idea of what your looking for and have been in this hobby quite a while.So you have years of experience on your side.Hope the DAC works well for you,and then a good pre comes along that will be a good fit in your rig.


    Without guys like you on the forum, guys like me would would still be listening to the old Fisher setup. :)

    Dan
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,580
    edited March 2014
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
  • RamZetRamZet Posts: 776
    edited March 2014
    Nice score.
    Sonos has so many listening options, a DAC should enhance any thing you may be streaming locally or from the web.
    B&W
    B&K
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