Subwoofer - Upgrade PSW505

cowboydude99
cowboydude99 Posts: 97
edited March 2014 in Speakers
Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade my PSW505 to an SVS PB-1000 or SB-2000.

The SB-2000 is cheaper and physically smaller. I have limited floor space. The cylinder style won't work for me either.

I'm wondering if the SB-2000 would be good for movie use. I probably use the sub for 80% movies.

I can probably squeeze in the PB-1000, but I don't know if the SB-2000 is the better option there.

What do you think?


Edit: I forgot the room size. 20x10x10. one of the 20' walls is open into my dining room. There are two windows in the room, one on each 10' wall. Ceilings start at 8' and are vaulted into 10' in the middle.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited March 2014
    well the ported one will definitely punch louder and hard and dig deeper than the sealed one, so I would say that if you can fit it that's the better option. But either one should be a noticeable improvement over what you currently have.
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    That's where I'm confused. The SB-2000 vs the PB-1000. Which would be louder/harder/deeper in this comparison?

    The PB-2000 vs the SB-2000, obviously the PB wins!
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    edited March 2014
    The SB 2000 will work great for HT, better than the PSW 505. The SB 1000 is a good sub, but between the 2, the SB 2000 is a better choice for any application.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited March 2014
    Okay sorry I was comparing the wrong subs. Yes the SB 2000 looks awesome, but I personally would not want to pay 200 extra for space constraints. However, if you are then I think you will be very pleased with the sub. I love mine!
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:     Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,779
    edited March 2014
    Call SVS and give them your details and budget and they'll recommend the best option. Their CS is top notch, I guarantee they won't try to oversell you.
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    Looks like the PB-1000 would fit.

    Better choice than the SB-2000?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,779
    edited March 2014
    cowboydude99 wrote: »
    Looks like the PB-1000 would fit.

    Better choice than the SB-2000?

    IMO with a sub you need to think outside the box (lol) and figure out a way to make the best model fit. Take my advise from post #6 and call them.
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    ken brydson wrote: »
    IMO with a sub you need to think outside the box (lol) and figure out a way to make the best model fit. Take my advise from post #6 and call them.

    I chatted with them yesterday. They said the pb-1000 would be good, but they first recommended the cylinder style. Which doesn't work for me.

    I wanted real world advise though. I know they're not up selling me but thought some user opinions would be good.
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited March 2014
    How does the cylinder style not work for you? Is it that you just dont like it?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,779
    edited March 2014
    deronb1 wrote: »
    How does the cylinder style not work for you? Is it that you just dont like it?

    My thoughts as well. Very efficient use of floor space (see my sig, real world advise right there. It's amazing).
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    ken brydson wrote: »
    My thoughts as well. Very efficient use of floor space (see my sig, real world advise right there. It's amazing).

    It is too tall. It is about the size of my tower speaker.

    I want to hide it....
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,779
    edited March 2014
    Why?

    IMG_20140312_170515_832.jpg
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    edited March 2014
    Both are available at SVS outlet right now. Nothing wrong with the PB 1000. Solid sub, relatively inexpensive, and you'll probably be satisfied with it. Going from the PSW 505 to the 1000, you'll probably fall in lust if not love with it.

    The SB 2000 will give you a smaller foot print, but cost more. You'll have more head room over the 1000, and it will work better with music, even though that is a secondary consideration.

    If you wish to be blindfolded and do an HT shoot out, best guess is will be so close to even as to not make much of a difference. Probably get a little more mid-bass punch out of the 2000, but sub 30 Hz will be pretty even.
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    ken brydson wrote: »
    Why?

    IMG_20140312_170515_832.jpg

    Hahaha
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    Considering the price difference, the PB-1000 looks like a good choice.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,779
    edited March 2014
    cowboydude99 wrote: »
    Hahaha

    Makes the phone look small, huh?
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    ken brydson wrote: »
    Makes the phone look small, huh?

    YUP!

    I'm going to keep a looking for the PB-1000. I am also going to see if I can audition these. The closest audio store is like 30 min away.
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  • FastGame
    FastGame Posts: 67
    edited March 2014
    I just went through all this :)

    I was really dead set on the SB 2000 because I do music more than movies, thought the SB 2000 would be more suited and add some slam for the movies. After reading reviews and talking to SVS the PB 1000 got thrown into the mix because of my room size.

    Anyhoo I ended up with the PB 2000 (don't ask why, cuz I don't know). Man-o-Man this thing will kick you in the crotch....but every time I look at it (thing is large and wife complains...) I wonder if I would have been better off with the smaller PB 1000 or SB 2000.

    IMO these reviews would be accurate on the PB 1000 for your use.

    http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/66069-svs-pb1000-sb1000-subwoofer-review.html

    http://www.avforums.com/review/svs-pb-1000-subwoofer-review.480

    http://referencehometheater.com/review/svs-pb-1000-subwoofer-review/

    Edit= Forgot to add that the smaller sub would have been better in my case because I'm running dual PB 2000's, balanced approach= way overkill...haha
    Samsung PN64F8500, Parasound 2100 pre amp, Parasound 2250 v.2 amp, Parasound Zdac, OPPO 103D, Monitor Audio Silver RX8, Dual SVS PB 2000
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    FastGame wrote: »
    I just went through all this :)

    I was really dead set on the SB 2000 because I do music more than movies, thought the SB 2000 would be more suited and add some slam for the movies. After reading reviews and talking to SVS the PB 1000 got thrown into the mix because of my room size.

    Anyhoo I ended up with the PB 2000 (don't ask why, cuz I don't know). Man-o-Man this thing will kick you in the crotch....but every time I look at it (thing is large and wife complains...) I wonder if I would have been better off with the smaller PB 1000 or SB 2000.

    IMO these reviews would be accurate on the PB 1000 for your use.

    http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/66069-svs-pb1000-sb1000-subwoofer-review.html

    http://www.avforums.com/review/svs-pb-1000-subwoofer-review.480

    http://referencehometheater.com/review/svs-pb-1000-subwoofer-review/

    Edit= Forgot to add that the smaller sub would have been better in my case because I'm running dual PB 2000's, balanced approach= way overkill...haha

    Thanks for these links. The PB-1000 does look like a good sub for me, especially coming from the PSW505.

    SVS seems to have a lot of these on their outlet.
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    Unfortunately I cannot find a dealer in my area to audition the subs...
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,001
    edited March 2014
    cowboydude99 wrote: »
    Unfortunately I cannot find a dealer in my area to audition the subs...

    That's because they are an online store only.....as far as I know anyway. Doubt you'd find anyone disappointed with a SVS sub anyway.
    HT SYSTEM-
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    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

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    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    That's because they are an online store only.....as far as I know anyway. Doubt you'd find anyone disappointed with a SVS sub anyway.

    I've only seen positive remarks. I'm just waiting on SVS customer service right now. Then I might just end up ordering this today.

    You can't lose with the 45 day trial...
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,779
    edited March 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    That's because they are an online store only.....as far as I know anyway. Doubt you'd find anyone disappointed with a SVS sub anyway.

    Not to mention a 45 day trial period and FREE return shipping if you don't like it...
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited March 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    That's because they are an online store only.....as far as I know anyway. Doubt you'd find anyone disappointed with a SVS sub anyway.

    Well I know that they sell through Vanns, Onecall, Amazon, etc. now, and the first two still have a couple B&M stores, so a demo might be possible depending on location. But the 45 day trial and free return seems to render the issue irrelevant...
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:     Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
    Bedroom 2.1     Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    Unfortunately in NY i cannot find any store. Yes, I could order through SVS and try it out for 45 days.
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  • FastGame
    FastGame Posts: 67
    edited March 2014
    cowboydude99 wrote: »
    Unfortunately in NY i cannot find any store. Yes, I could order through SVS and try it out for 45 days.

    Yep, one of subs is going back, overkill, when both dig down they rip the floor up and throw it in your lap.
    Samsung PN64F8500, Parasound 2100 pre amp, Parasound 2250 v.2 amp, Parasound Zdac, OPPO 103D, Monitor Audio Silver RX8, Dual SVS PB 2000
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  • cowboydude99
    cowboydude99 Posts: 97
    edited March 2014
    Those are large! Are they the PB-2000?
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  • FastGame
    FastGame Posts: 67
    edited March 2014
    Yes, PB 2000 the 1000 are smaller. To be honest the PB 1000 would have worked in my room because I only needed bass support below 40 HZ for movies.
    Samsung PN64F8500, Parasound 2100 pre amp, Parasound 2250 v.2 amp, Parasound Zdac, OPPO 103D, Monitor Audio Silver RX8, Dual SVS PB 2000
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  • drummer86
    drummer86 Posts: 441
    edited March 2014
    Looks great! I vote keep em both.
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  • FastGame
    FastGame Posts: 67
    edited March 2014
    If I wait till the new Godzilla movie comes out it'll be past 45 days and I'll have to keep them....then again if Godzilla stomps through that room the wife will give me 45 days to get out...haha
    Samsung PN64F8500, Parasound 2100 pre amp, Parasound 2250 v.2 amp, Parasound Zdac, OPPO 103D, Monitor Audio Silver RX8, Dual SVS PB 2000
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