ripping cds to computer.

AeR0AeR0 Posts: 102
edited June 2014 in Going Digital
just wondering what everyone is using?


i was using windows media player and ripping to wav file... no compression.


any thoughts or better ways?
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  • AeR0AeR0 Posts: 102
    edited March 2014
    and yes i keep my ripped files in 2 locations as ive already lost it once!

    thank god i kept all the cds ive bought over the years..
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,368
    edited March 2014
    dbpoweramp ripping to FLAC. Smaller than wav, still lossless, & can be converted to anything else you might want.
  • AeR0AeR0 Posts: 102
    edited March 2014
    if they are smaller than wav files are they not compressed than?
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,368
    edited March 2014
    Sure they're compressed, but that doesn't mean they can't be lossless.
  • AeR0AeR0 Posts: 102
    edited March 2014
    good point.


    i decided just to rip them with windows media player....

    thanks for the input! :D
  • DevlonDevlon Posts: 359
    edited March 2014
    I use a freeware Exact Audio Copy (EAC). Is easy to use and gets all the metadata (album art). Ripping to FLAC (foobar) will end up getting you about about 40-45% more disk space for more music. FLAC does in a sense compress, but only to the limits within human hearing. So if a WAV file contains a range of say 5k-50k, FLAC may compress it into being 20-20k which to all still sounds uncompressed and is usually indistinguishable from a WAV file.
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,528
    edited March 2014
    Devlon wrote: »
    FLAC does in a sense compress, but only to the limits within human hearing. So if a WAV file contains a range of say 5k-50k, FLAC may compress it into being 20-20k which to all still sounds uncompressed and is usually indistinguishable from a WAV file.

    Where did you get that from?
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  • dragon1952dragon1952 Posts: 4,685
    edited March 2014
    FLAC is lossless bro. It's only compressed for storage.
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  • jaygaxjaygax Posts: 153
    edited March 2014
    i use EAC for my flacs too.
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  • StantonZStantonZ Posts: 393
    edited March 2014
    I use EAC and rip to FLAC; it also creates WAV files (by default) which you can then convert to anything else you want (like MP3).
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    edited March 2014
    Audiograbber to 320kbps MP3 Joint Stereo, LAME encoding plugin.
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  • JerryR1verzJerryR1verz Posts: 76
    edited March 2014
    EAC with LAME plugin for audio. I usually do 320k and I do not have experience with FLAC so not sure if I could tell the difference.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,132
    edited April 2014
    kevintomb wrote: »
    My current comp, WMP, at 320kbs MP3.

    Your ripping cd's to MP3....not even lossless ? Why ?
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  • RduNCRduNC Posts: 88
    edited April 2014
    I use WMP WAV (lossless) Best Quality. Have never compared it to other methods, but seems to do the trick for me. I stream through my router(ethernet not wireless) to my pioneer then out to the speakers. Sounds good to me, but like I said, never tried any other ways.
  • AsSiMiLaTeDAsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,717
    edited April 2014
    This topic has been discussed here many times. Most people prefer FLAC or ALAC as it preserves the sound quality, has a smaller size and supports tagging. I use dbPowerAmp, would not trust iTunes or Windows Media Player to rip my music...
  • StantonZStantonZ Posts: 393
    edited April 2014
    I recently wrote an article about ripping, storage, and a low-cost media (audio) server you might want to have a look at:

    http://www.audioholics.com/diy-audio/building-a-media-server
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  • voltzvoltz Posts: 5,217
    edited April 2014
    I just started re ripping all my music to FLAC's using Jriver media center when I realized my Ipod classic wasn't going to be very happy with me if I kept it up so I switched to ALAC :(
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  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,536
    edited April 2014
    As soon as I get a couple of drives, I think I will finally get started. Been talking about it for the last three years or so. Its time...as I don't even have a place to store my CD's.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,132
    edited April 2014
    WLDock wrote: »
    As soon as I get a couple of drives, I think I will finally get started. Been talking about it for the last three years or so. Its time...as I don't even have a place to store my CD's.

    Cool, find yourself a nice dac that will compliment the sound signature you like, or dive into that Oppo 105 you have your sights on.
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  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,536
    edited April 2014
    Yeah, the 105 seems like a a good way to go about it and stay under $1500 and have a disc player to boot. However, I was digging the Sony ‎HAP-Z1ES player at the show this weekend.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,132
    edited April 2014
    You can find the 105 for about a G note now, some used,some demo's, but a lot cheaper than retail.
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  • Loud & ClearLoud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited April 2014
    Just using iTunes to rip wav for now. Thinking about downloading the Pure Music demo to see if there's any benefit.

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  • Moose68BashMoose68Bash Posts: 3,578
    edited April 2014
    This topic has been discussed here many times. Most people prefer FLAC or ALAC as it preserves the sound quality, has a smaller size and supports tagging. I use dbPowerAmp, would not trust iTunes or Windows Media Player to rip my music...

    Why do you not trust iTunes for ripping CDs?

    I understand the reasons for not using iTunes of Media Player for play back, but what has been unreliable about either or both for ripping?

    Yes, this makes me nervous because I have been using iTunes for ripping to AIFF (without any apparent problems).
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  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,987
    edited April 2014
    I use EAC and rip to Flac. I use free MediaMonkey for tags/editing, etc.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,132
    edited May 2014
    Why do you not trust iTunes for ripping CDs?

    I understand the reasons for not using iTunes of Media Player for play back, but what has been unreliable about either or both for ripping?

    Yes, this makes me nervous because I have been using iTunes for ripping to AIFF (without any apparent problems).


    I wouldn't worry so much about it. I use ITunes to rip cd's, not because I want to but for ease of use and the wife. ITunes has a certain level of grunge in the higher frequencies mostly heard at higher volumes. For most music listening and reasonable volumes it's not noticed though. I have noticed since adding the Cary dac that a lot of that noise in the upper frequencies from ITunes has gone away. I want to keep things as simple as possible for the wife, in case something happens to me. She isn't the best with computer programs and downloading music....moving files from one place to another, troubleshooting, etc. That way she can continue on listening to decent music even after I'm not around.

    Aside from the ease of use for ITunes, there really is no other reason to keep using it...imho anyway.
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  • nspindelnspindel Posts: 5,345
    edited May 2014
    I use EAC and rip to flac in secure mode. The primary reason why I use it is just that I have been using it for 10 years, it works perfectly, so no reason to change. I think there are probably easier solutions available now, but I really don't do much ripping any more. When I buy music these days, it's usually records, sacd, or hdtracks downloads. Can't even remember the last time I bought a cd.
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  • bthoganbthogan Posts: 150
    edited May 2014
    iTunes for ALAC (playing ipod through cd player DAC is big part of my system). dbpoweramp for FLAC -> ALAC.
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  • PolkieManPolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited May 2014
    Using an LG Blu-ray Burner I use Clone CD for the CD's that I have or borrow and then I convert them to 320k MP3 with Windows Media Player for my USB stick uses.
    This way I can always go back, make a prefect clone again, if I have the need using ImgBurn.
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  • PolkieManPolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited May 2014
    You can store them at my place. I would even convert them and then send you a hard drive with all of them as FLAC files.
    WLDock wrote: »
    As soon as I get a couple of drives, I think I will finally get started. Been talking about it for the last three years or so. Its time...as I don't even have a place to store my CD's.
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  • billbillwbillbillw Posts: 5,819
    edited May 2014
    StantonZ wrote: »
    I recently wrote an article about ripping, storage, and a low-cost media (audio) server you might want to have a look at:

    http://www.audioholics.com/diy-audio/building-a-media-server

    I saw that article. It is nice idea. I have two older Core 2 Duo laptops around the house. The actual pricing might be off a bit though. Apparently, you found a VXPocket sound card for much less than the going price because I haven't seen one for less than $85 since your article was posted. I now have a search on eBay for VXPocket and hopefully someday, I will snag one for under $50.
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