Hooking Amp to AVR ????

boston1450
boston1450 Posts: 7,639
edited February 2014 in 2 Channel Audio
Denon POA2200--Yamaha RX-V1
Hello all. Id like to hook my Denon to the Avr & there is tons of ports. The manual says Main in- Main out. Which one do i plug amp into ? I have picture of manual so that may help..
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Another ? Will cd signal going through Avr then to Amp sound as good -- as CD to Amp then to Speakers (which sounds fantastic) i know i should be able to tell when i do try it-but thought id ask . TIA
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Been using controls on back of Denon for volume since i picked it up recently. Figured id try SDA's on HT & see how it sounds
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    Thanks Rick. The Denon has cd & normal ports. So i may be able to still use both at different times :)
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    Yes the sound is a little different on my ears but not too bad. I did notice a big diffence with the Denon pushing the SDA's. I know avr's can push them ok BUT put a amp on them makes a BIG difference. If anyone has a chance to get a Denon amp they are a decent amp :) Thanks for advice as this Yamaha has alot of ports for adding amps & didnt want to damage it
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    Well i listened to this Amp running through the Yamaha today. Watched a couple of movies & it does a pretty good job with the SDA's. I have owned this very same Denon Amp before about 2 years ago & used it on a Denon AVR & it does a very good job on HT with the SDA's IMO. The Yamaha RX-V1 is a little more intimidating to me i guess :)
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,204
    edited February 2014
    Rick88 wrote: »
    Is that RX-V1 black or is it the gorgeous champagne finish I've been drooling over for years?

    I had to laugh when I saw the guy who posts the pics of all the great looking women make the comment "drooling over for years" and he's talking about an AVR.:) :):)
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    Rick88 wrote: »
    Is that RX-V1 black or is it the gorgeous champagne finish I've been drooling over for years?
    that is what color it is Rick. Im looking at a DIY racks because between the receiver & amp its 100 lbs not counting other gear :( not good..
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    The guy i got it from wanted 5 bills for it. I tried for 3 weeks to get him to lower price & he then put he was interested in trades. So i traded him a receiver & 1 bill = 350.00 so i did ok. I offered him 400.00 cash in the begining-go figure :)
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    As far as unit itself. It is very impressive. I was thinking of going new Monitor 70's & 40's but decided to use what i have-vs-selling/storing Vintage Monitors/SDA's. Adding the Denon was a big plus & so far its amazing on HT. I still need to learn the receiver & remote though. It can be very complex. I would love to get the new Yamaha but above my budget
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited February 2014
    No Blu-ray ?
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    No blue-ray :( SOON. 1000's dvd's & Netflix only. No cable 12 years now :) more money for other hobby's
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    Edit: we have one & have cartoons the Mrs just told me :)
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2014
    boston1450 wrote: »
    No blue-ray :( SOON. 1000's dvd's & Netflix only. No cable 12 years now :) more money for other hobby's
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    Edit: we have one & have cartoons the Mrs just told me :)

    That cable bill is a B#$*$! Beautiful Yamaha there even heavier than my Onkyo, now that's some weight and build quality! You can stream Netflix with no hiccups in this state?

    Enjoy!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited February 2014
    Get one of these plays SACD's too

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=943632&Q=&is=REG&A=details
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    cnh wrote: »
    That cable bill is a B#$*$! Beautiful Yamaha there even heavier than my Onkyo, now that's some weight and build quality! You can stream Netflix with no hiccups in this state?

    Enjoy!

    cnh
    NO it does hiccup too much :evil: now ive been getting into HT, i think i need to upgrade my internet service. I have to refresh it a few times when streaming movies & its pi$$ing me off. Time to pay more :(
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    PolkieMan wrote: »
    Get one of these plays SACD's too

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=943632&Q=&is=REG&A=details
    cheap price for a SACD whats up with this unit. What will that improve-as i have a dvd & cd Player now. We run a HDMI cable from our Laptop to the TV for Netflix. I would love to get one of those fancy dancy internet TV's.
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  • TNHNDYMAN
    TNHNDYMAN Posts: 2,145
    edited February 2014
    ^ just get a roku 3 and call it a day for streaming. Easy to set up and works great.
    2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer.

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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited February 2014
    Check it out for the price it's great I use it for Netflix (Dexter) too it does a real nice job on that, a newer HD chip, than the 590. So it does the Smart Tv Internet part too so can I keep my old dumb Tv a while longer.
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    TNHNDYMAN wrote: »
    ^ just get a roku 3 and call it a day for streaming. Easy to set up and works great.
    im researching one right now & if it does what i need it will be here asap. That may make things much easier too :) Thanks
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    Well after 2 day of listening the Yamaha sounds very good HT with the Denon..BUT on music it totally svcks. Either ive got to go in & adjust something? Its a totally different kind of sound. Like there is a bag over the speakers :(
    I hooked the CD player to just the Denon & it just sounds so much better. Difference of night & day. Dont understand why this is ? I have the 10's sitting (unhooked) in limbo-hoping to use them somewhere else.
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    Maybe SDA's dont belong on AVR's even with a amp?
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  • TNHNDYMAN
    TNHNDYMAN Posts: 2,145
    edited February 2014
    Are you using 2 ch direct or something similar? I know my Denon has a lot of other processing on the stereo source unless I select pure direct vs even just plain stereo or dobly digital. I'm sure you'd like a nice 2ch pre better than the avr, but it should at least be decent depending on the settings.
    2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer.

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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2014
    There are some people here who do use SDAs in a HT set up and seem to be OK with that.

    Have you tried the Monitor 10s as L/Rs in that system because that would seem a good pairing. I don't know why your sound seems veiled? I run M-70s off the Onkyo below and there is no such problem although the Onkyo can make them a bit bright on CDs.

    I've often thought of moving my 10s to replace the M-70s but I never got around to it, because the Ms sound good on Movies.

    Actually, at the moment, I'm chilling to some college FM on a Pioneer SX-838 and a set of EPI 100Vs, smmmooooth, very smmmoooothhhh!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2014
    And the Pioneer SX-838, sorry, I couldn't resist. This combo sounds so good!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited February 2014
    Yea when I listen to music I put my receiver in Pure Audio Mode the little button on the left front that has a blue lighted ring when it's on. So my system does double duty although I know I need a separate 2 channel amp for the fronts. Gotta love those old Pioneers nice wood had a SX1050 from 1976-1987
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    Thanks guys. I gotta play around with the receiver. The remote is a nightmere & ya gotta get into the system & make adjustments . It sounded very good on the Monitor 10's & when i hooked Amp to it i think i gotta select something inside it & for some reason it sounds different even with the 10's on the Amp too. So i know its not the speakers & the Amp is fine. I tried it upstairs on my Adcom set up just to make sure. Not the Amp. I will mess with it tomorrow as i have some down time coming :) thanks again
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited February 2014
    cnh wrote: »
    And the Pioneer SX-838, sorry, I couldn't resist. This combo sounds so good!

    cnh
    sweet Cnh :)
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