the thicker the better?

1312DN
1312DN Posts: 3
edited March 2014 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
hello

i have a question, for wiring speakers a thicker wire for the speakers is better than thiiner speaker wires?

i have the question because i do not know if a thicker cable would ensure to me a better sound quality or more detail on music and movies or just do not matter if the wire is thicker or not.

best regards
Frank
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited February 2014
    DSkip wrote: »
    Worst title ever.

    Hehe :biggrin:
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,303
    edited February 2014
    the thicker the better?...That's what she said

    The answer is most cases is yes. 14awg speaker cable usually performs better that 18awg lamp cord.
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  • mytime
    mytime Posts: 87
    edited February 2014
    DSkip wrote: »
    Worst title ever.

    Just spit beer on my laptop. Too funny.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,604
    edited February 2014
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    edited February 2014
    My wife keeps telling me I have a "thick" head....somehow I don't think she's insinuating that's "better".
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  • heartystatue
    heartystatue Posts: 329
    edited February 2014
    Hey Fred welcome to CP. A good quality 14ga wire will suffice a lot of speaker connections. Quality being the keyword here. If you are trying to upgrade there are a lot of threads on the forum about just this subject. Get your read on. But as was stated earlier don't use lamp cord. Again welcome and good luck.
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  • 1312DN
    1312DN Posts: 3
    edited February 2014
    have my reservations because i tried with those cables that are way thin and just i find that do not get the same clarity and when use a thick cable i find too much bass over bookshelfs so can blame to the wire or to the speaker .

    best regards
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited February 2014
    It's not all about thickness but quality counts as well. Can't believe I just said that....
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited February 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    my wife keeps telling me i have a "thick" head....somehow i don't think she's insinuating that's "better".

    lol!!
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited February 2014
    ken brydson wrote: »
    It's not all about thickness but quality counts as well. Can't believe I just said that....

    I see where *you* are coming from Ken..... :smile:
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

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  • Glen B
    Glen B Posts: 269
    edited February 2014
    1312DN wrote: »
    when use a thick cable i find too much bass over bookshelfs so can blame to the wire or to the speaker .

    If bass is overly prominent, you can reduce it by repositioning the speakers. Moving them away from walls and corners out into the open will reduce bass and vice-versa when you move them in the opposite direction.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited February 2014
    DSkip wrote: »
    Worst title ever.

    I have to respectfully disagree... :wink:
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,563
    edited February 2014
    halo71 wrote: »
    Where can I buy black paint? Anyone know?

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  • pogo
    pogo Posts: 5
    edited February 2014
    1312DN wrote: »
    hello

    i have a question, for wiring speakers a thicker wire for the speakers is better than thiiner speaker wires?

    i have the question because i do not know if a thicker cable would ensure to me a better sound quality or more detail on music and movies or just do not matter if the wire is thicker or not.

    best regards
    Frank

    Only if you are trying to impress someone. Educate yourself: http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#reviewdares
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited February 2014
    pogo wrote: »
    Only if you are trying to impress someone. Educate yourself: http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#reviewdares

    Buh bye now clown. Why are you even here?
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,604
    edited February 2014
    pogo wrote: »
    Only if you are trying to impress someone. Educate yourself: http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#reviewdares

    Educate and Roger Russell used together in the same sentence? Come on now...really? lol
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited February 2014
    Come on guys, he's obviously trying to start an obligatory "wire war"........ Must resist......... :smile:
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited February 2014
    headrott wrote: »
    Come on guys, he's obviously trying to start an obligatory "wire war"........ Must resist......... :smile:

    That's why I said Buh Bye. No fun in a battle of wits with an unarmed man....
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited February 2014
    ken brydson wrote: »
    That's why I said Buh Bye. No fun in a battle of wits with an unarmed man....

    Gotcha Ken. In the words of the the Storm Troopers on Star Wars........"Move Along......Move Along".........
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited February 2014
    headrott wrote: »
    Gotcha Ken. In the words of the the Storm Troopers on Star Wars........"Move Along......Move Along".........

    :lol:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,647
    edited February 2014
    pogo wrote: »
    Educate yourself

    What a novel idea. So, when are you actually going to try some high quality cables for yourself???
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  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited February 2014
    Just use 10 gauge. Or 12. That what I do. They look the best��
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  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited February 2014
    They have started carrying some nice 12 guage but you can do better for $50 a roll of 50 feet
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited February 2014
    DSkip wrote: »
    Rat Shack carries all you'll ever need. Don't worry, there won't be a rush for their stock... you don't have to run, just walk.

    I don't know about that. Recently, I heard the Radio shack is closing stores and, perhaps, going out of business.

    Maybe you should grab whatever you want there while they're still in business.
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  • outofhand
    outofhand Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
    I went to advance auto and picked up 100 foot of 12g for 20.00....is it any better? don't know
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited February 2014
    outofhand wrote: »
    I went to advance auto and picked up 100 foot of 12g for 20.00....is it any better? don't know

    You get what you pay for. Hope it works out for you...
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  • Jayce1971
    Jayce1971 Posts: 38
    edited March 2014
    ken brydson wrote: »
    You get what you pay for. Hope it works out for you...
    Thought this was cool. You can actually audition different interconnects and speaker wires, and decide in your home, with your equipment, whether or not the cost is justified. Surprised I hadn't seen this sooner.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited March 2014
    Don't forget it's all about the quality of the strokes, sorry strands of wire..lol
    ken brydson wrote: »
    It's not all about thickness but quality counts as well. Can't believe I just said that....
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  • ft_townman
    ft_townman Posts: 30
    edited March 2014
    yes it definitely matters. The bigger gauge wire you have the more signal can transfer thru it. All wire technically will get the sound to the speakers but all wire will NOT sound the same. I've noticed that most enthusiasts on here use at least 16 gauge. But most go with, including me. 14 gauge wire.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,437
    edited March 2014
    The heavier the gage, the less resistance you have. I use Furez 10g for my set up and very pleased with the results.
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