Pete Seeger has died

strider
strider Posts: 2,568
edited January 2014 in The Clubhouse
Died at 94 years old, was chopping firewood last week according to his granddaughter. Probably the biggest music icon I've ever seen play live.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20140128/US--Obit-Seeger/
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,336
    edited January 2014
    Signature material:

    "There's not dozens of people now doing what I try to do, not hundreds, but literally thousands. ... The idea of using music to try to get the world together is now all over the place.".....Pete Seeger

    RIP
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited January 2014
    A pioneer...another one gone from us...
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited January 2014
    "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy" is a classic that those of us from the Vietnam era will never forget -- at least, I won't!

    He made a difference and will be missed.
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited January 2014
    Amen to that bro....
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited January 2014
    I think this is the documentary I caught on the Palladia channel about him a few weeks ago. Pretty good stuff.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,014
    edited January 2014
    Maybe you guys remember him as something else. To me....another communist bites the dust so no tears will be shed on my side.
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited January 2014
    Man, you hold a grudge. From what I've read he renounced communism in 1950.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2014
    Never heard of him...
    Maybe before my time..
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited January 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    maybe you guys remember him as something else. To me....another communist bites the dust so no tears will be shed on my side.

    ^^^^^ yep!
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  • 4xoddic
    4xoddic Posts: 372
    edited January 2014
    Arlo Guthrie on Pete Seeger's passing:

    "'Well, of course he passed away!' I'm telling everyone this morning. 'But that doesn't mean he's gone.'"

    http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20140128/NEWS/140129673

    Curious tonyb, was "Alice's Restaurant Massacree"* something you understood?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice's_Restaurant
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,014
    edited January 2014
    Anti-war...whats to not understand. A song reflective of the times, but whats Guthrie have to do with Seeger ?
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  • strider
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    edited January 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    Anti-war...whats to not understand. A song reflective of the times, but whats Guthrie have to do with Seeger ?

    From what I've read, Woody and he met in the Forties when they were both playing on Alan Lomax's radio show. Lomax and his brother were the guys that travelled around America recording the roots music that folk was born of.
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  • 4xoddic
    4xoddic Posts: 372
    edited January 2014
    ^^^^^^^^ Yup, Arlo would have been 20 when his Dad died. "Like his late father, Woody Guthrie, Arlo is known for singing songs of protest against social injustice."

    For those of us who had to register for the DRAFT, it was much more than "anti-war":

    "The song lampoons the Vietnam War draft. However, Guthrie stated in a 2009 interview with Ron Bennington that the song is more an "anti-stupidity" song than an anti-war song, adding that it is based on a true incident. In the song, Guthrie is called up for a draft examination, and rejected as unfit for military service as a result of a criminal record consisting in its entirety of a single arrest, court appearance, fine, and clean-up order for littering and creating a public nuisance on Thanksgiving Day in 1965, when Arlo was 18 years old. Alice and her restaurant make up the recurrent refrain, but barely figure in the story. On the DVD commentary for the 1969 movie, Guthrie states that the events presented in the song all actually happened."

    My Dad, may he RIP, was a Marine. He threw around the comment "Commie" pretty frequently while I was growing up with Viet Nam on the TV news every night during dinner. CBS News was "Communist." Hanoi Jane, no need to ask.

    I attended my first Viet Nam casualty Marine funeral service the summer of 1968. The brother of a classmate, Jay Lewis had enlisted with the brothers of two other classmates (under the MC's "buddy plan"). The last time they saw each other was boot camp. Jay was on the HS track relay team which set a state record. He didn't last 6 months in Nam.

    When I signed up with my Draft Board, I was advised by the Clerk to go with 1-HS, rather than take a medical deferment for having Diabetes: "Employers might discriminate against you."

    Rep. Joe Skubitz [R-KS5, 1963-1978] gave my HS graduation speech in '71. He reminded all of us males of the opportunity we had to enlist and serve our country. . . . .
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,014
    edited January 2014
    Guys I know all that junk, but what does Guthrie have to do with Seeger being a communist ?

    Anti-stupidity...that's such an enlightenment for that time ? Look around today kids, you can make anti stupidity songs 24/7 and not make a dent.
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  • Timothy Smith
    Timothy Smith Posts: 764
    edited January 2014
    The only good communist is a ...........
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  • Timothy Smith
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    edited January 2014
    Speaking of Communists:

    I am in China on business this week.

    Saw a Chinese teenager sporting one of those Che T-Shirts.

    Struck me as funny, almost laughed out loud.

    Wouldn't you think that a rebel teenager over here in the PRC would be sporting a Ronnie Reagan T-shirt?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,761
    edited January 2014
    I grew up with my father playing guitar and singing Seeger along with other folk songs around the camp fire. I have fond memories of those times, but I'm also sure it's one reason why I'm a conservative today.

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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited January 2014
    Guys, you're taking Seegar's communism out of context. In the 30's lots of entertainment people, writers, etc. joined the communist party due to the belief that capitalism had destroyed itself with the greed and lack of regulations that caused the great depression. If you've ever read Karl Marx his ideas are utopian, but not based on human nature. That's why communism doesn't work as a political system IMO.

    Joe Stalin's purges and political repression caused most of these folks to renounce communism: it was totalitarianism or fascism, certainly not communism. BTW, there never has been a true communist state.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited January 2014
    strider wrote: »
    Man, you hold a grudge. From what I've read he renounced communism in 1950.

    I renounced being a hunchback.
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited January 2014
    Yea...not to mention the McCarthy witch hunt hearings in the 50's...another fine example of a government gone berserk!
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  • Timothy Smith
    Timothy Smith Posts: 764
    edited January 2014
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    Yea...not to mention the McCarthy witch hunt hearings in the 50's...another fine example of a government gone berserk!


    Yes, killing 20 million of your own countrymen (Stalin) is equivalent to (maybe) not being able to get lucrative work in show business writing, producing or directing, or being forced to write under a pseudonym.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,014
    edited January 2014
    I wish we had the same zeal today for banishing such as we did then. Now we just call them progressives and even teach such learnings to our children. Total reversal in the last 40-50 years imho.

    But...I just brought it up because that's what always bugged me about the guy and some may not have known that about him. Didn't intend to discuss communism or it's merits/faults.

    The man died, contributed to the folk musical world, and I'm sure he had family that loved him. I'm just not one who loved him for other reasons. Lets say we leave it at that before this gets ugly.
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    edited January 2014
    +1 if feel sorry for his family.
    tonyb wrote: »
    I wish we had the same zeal today for banishing such as we did then. Now we just call them progressives and even teach such learnings to our children. Total reversal in the last 40-50 years imho.

    But...I just brought it up because that's what always bugged me about the guy and some may not have known that about him. Didn't intend to discuss communism or it's merits/faults.

    The man died, contributed to the folk musical world, and I'm sure he had family that loved him. I'm just not one who loved him for other reasons. Lets say we leave it at that before this gets ugly.
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited January 2014
    Timothy Smith wrote: »
    Yes, killing 20 million of your own countrymen (Stalin) is equivalent to (maybe) not being able to get lucrative work in show business writing, producing or directing, or being forced to write under a pseudonym.
    Stalin was a despot..but yea...I guess you could equate the two...the repelling of an invader and being able to find lucrative work....
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    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,465
    edited January 2014
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    Yea...not to mention the McCarthy witch hunt hearings in the 50's...another fine example of a government gone berserk!

    If you did your homework... you would know that McCarthy had it right all along. As far as Mr. Seeger goes, I am in the same camp as Tonyb.

    AS an aside, isn't it ironic that Pete gets 25 responses in this thread, but the ICONIC Phil Everly gets a half dozen spread across three threads?
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited January 2014
    Phil Everly was also a pioneer...as for homework...I remember my history well..McCarthy's witch hunt aka the red scare..led to his political downfall...and censure....
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  • Timothy Smith
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    edited January 2014
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    Stalin was a despot..but yea...I guess you could equate the two...the repelling of an invader and being able to find lucrative work....

    To clarify: Stalin killed 20 million RUSSIANS.

    By some counts he killed more Russians than the Germans did during WW2.
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