Parasound Model 5125 - how to connect channels

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msg Posts: 10,022
edited January 2014 in Electronics
I was just browsing Parasound amps and came across the Model 5125, 5ch.
How does one connect this? Are preouts from an AVR or Preamp singles or doubles?

http://parasound.com/vintage/5125.php

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited January 2014
    Singles.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,022
    edited January 2014
    cool, thanks.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,022
    edited January 2014
    so how does one connect this to the 5125, since the preouts are L+R channels? with y-cables, or some proprietary cable from Parasound?
    sorry, I'm new to home audio amplifiers.

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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited January 2014
    The pic of the AVR appears to be a 9.1 channel setup, the 5125 is a 5 channel amp, so only 5 outgoing channels on the AVR can be used. Most people run a 5.1 channel setup, for example the front L and R would go to channel 1 and 2, the center to channel 3 and surround L and R would go the channels 4 and 5, the .1 channel is the subwoofer.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,287
    edited January 2014
    Obsession18 wrote: »
    The pic of the AVR appears to be a 9.1 channel setup, the 5125 is a 5 channel amp, so only 5 outgoing channels on the AVR can be used. Most people run a 5.1 channel setup, for example the front L and R would go to channel 1 and 2, the center to channel 3 and surround L and R would go the channels 4 and 5, the .1 channel is the subwoofer.

    Picture as described above, as F1 mentioned single RCA cables
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited January 2014
    You need five rca interconnect cables. Connect one from the AVR's front red (right front speaker) to the amp's input which is closest to your front right speaker. I mean it doesn't matter where it goes on the amp as long as your speaker wire is synced up with the matching interconnect, but I like to run them in a certain orientation. Anyway, you're just connecting one speaker at a time with the rca interconnects. Red is considered right except for the center, which doesn't matter. So the AVR's "front" red output is for your right front speaker. Connect that to your amp and make sure you run the speaker wire from its matching speaker wire terminal. And so on.

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  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
    edited January 2014
    nbrowser wrote: »
    txcoastal, excellent graphic, could be helpful for others too.

    +1. Nice visual to help the guy out.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,022
    edited January 2014
    Obsession18 wrote: »
    The pic of the AVR appears to be a 9.1 channel setup, the 5125 is a 5 channel amp, so only 5 outgoing channels on the AVR can be used. Most people run a 5.1 channel setup, for example the front L and R would go to channel 1 and 2, the center to channel 3 and surround L and R would go the channels 4 and 5, the .1 channel is the subwoofer.
    ah, I see. yeah, the L&R's threw me off. but yeah, that's the from the back of an SC-1222-k
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Picture as described above, as F1 mentioned single RCA cables
    ahhhh man! that's AWESOME!!!
    what program did you use for that? I use a screen capture utility that works pretty well called FastStone, but yours looks better!
    Loud & Clear wrote: »
    You need five rca interconnect cables. Connect one from the AVR's front red (right front speaker) to the amp's input which is closest to your front right speaker. I mean it doesn't matter where it goes on the amp as long as your speaker wire is synced up with the matching interconnect, but I like to run them in a certain orientation. Anyway, you're just connecting one speaker at a time with the rca interconnects. Red is considered right except for the center, which doesn't matter. So the AVR's "front" red output is for your right front speaker. Connect that to your amp and make sure you run the speaker wire from its matching speaker wire terminal. And so on.
    yeah, I got mixed up seeing it like this and didn't see how it works. I was thinking a bunch of separate single RCA cables, when really you can still use the standard pair ones, I think.
    nbrowser wrote: »
    txcoastal, excellent graphic, could be helpful for others too.
    yeah, that's pretty nice.
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  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
    edited January 2014
    Yes you can use the paired RCA's and just use a one side of a pair or just pull a pair apart for the center
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,287
    edited January 2014
    msg wrote: »
    ahhhh man! that's AWESOME!!!
    what program did you use for that? I use a screen capture utility that works pretty well called FastStone, but yours looks better!

    Glad it helped.....I just copied the images to Word Doc, converted it to PDF, then used Adobe Acrobat tools for the arrows, the used MS snipping tool and saved as JPeg took a couple minutes...but a picture is worth a thousand words
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited January 2014
    If he's referring to the standard red and white paired cables that come with cheap electronics....throw those out, garbage. Get 5 Signal cable analog 2's and tell them your a member here for a discount. Or have Doug from Douglasconnections.com set you up, he has good quality and won't break the bank.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,022
    edited January 2014
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Glad it helped.....I just copied the images to Word Doc, converted it to PDF, then used Adobe Acrobat tools for the arrows, the used MS snipping tool and saved as JPeg took a couple minutes...but a picture is worth a thousand words
    ah jeez man, that looks way more 'finished' than that. I'd have sworn you were using a proprietary screen capture program :)
    but yeah, agreed, I use screencaps all the time for informational messages. 'preciate it, that was good stuff.
    tonyb wrote: »
    If he's referring to the standard red and white paired cables that come with cheap electronics....throw those out, garbage. Get 5 Signal cable analog 2's and tell them your a member here for a discount. Or have Doug from Douglasconnections.com set you up, he has good quality and won't break the bank.
    hahaha, okay, I'll look into those. that much better?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited January 2014
    Better ? Don't make me spit coffee at the 'puter screen friend. Yes....better.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited January 2014
    LOL.....any cable is better than those generic patch cords.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,022
    edited January 2014
    tonyb wrote: »
    Better ? Don't make me spit coffee at the 'puter screen friend. Yes....better.
    LOL, okay okay
    F1nut wrote: »
    LOL.....any cable is better than those generic patch cords.
    haha, okay, got it. so I have a lot more to look forward to then is what you're saying. sucks. I got a whole box of those... prob 17 dollars worth!
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  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
    edited January 2014
    The "cheap ****" cables will ""work" but will you get the best sound? Oh hell no! There is a long road down the raabit hole with cables, you're sure to have a lot of fun.
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  • Loud & Clear
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    I would advise you to do some blind testing on cables before you get carried away with the idea. The fact that cables are debated so vigorously is rather revealing, even if the cables aren't. No one, or very few, would argue that speakers matter. Before you buy a thousand dollar strip of jacketed wire, really think about it and, like I said, do some blind listening with a few different cables to get a feel for what the wires do, and don't do. But most importantly, YOU be the judge.

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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited January 2014
    msg - The Signal cable analog 2's in my opinion will be the last cables you will ever buy, a set of five (4’ length) will set you back about $300, you will have to spend significantly more to get a small improvement over the analog 2’s. Don’t get caught up in cable hype, the Signal Cable stuff is first rate. Those cheap patch cords need to go, everyone will agree on that.
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    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited January 2014
    Obsession18 wrote: »
    msg - The Signal cable analog 2's in my opinion will be the last cables you will ever buy, a set of five (4’ length) will set you back about $300, you will have to spend significantly more to get a small improvement over the analog 2’s. Don’t get caught up in cable hype, the Signal Cable stuff is first rate. Those cheap patch cords need to go, everyone will agree on that.

    I got my math wrong on the Signal cable analog 2's its $150 for five 4' cables.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,022
    Not quite sure how I stumbled across one of my first posts, but jeez, was I embarrassingly clueless(er).
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  • Kurt300
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    We all started out that way - you are in good company.
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