My solid state amps wont take spades

polkfarmboy
polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
edited January 2014 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
Has anyone ever just shoved one side of the spade into the terminal and fastened like so? My krell, Anthem or Wyred 4 sound amps wont let me hook up my coveted MIT Oracle Matrix 90 REV1 speaker cables wahhhhhhhhhhh
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2014
    Wyred 4 Sound amps work fine with WBT spades. You may need to unscrew the binding post as far as it will go and slide the wire and spade through the slot on the bottom.
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    edited January 2014
    In my best Ricky Riccardo impersonation... "Looocy How many times I told you not to come down to da club"?

    get something like this... http://www.cs1.net/products/vampire_wire/SB_single_banana_plugs.htm

    Doesn't MIT have adapters for such occasions? Jeez you'd think with all the $$$$$ you spent on them they would send a guy right out with them..
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited January 2014
    The MIT's cannot unscrew to let you swap the termination as they are standard spade to spade unless specially ordered. I did unscreew the w4s as far as but those mit spades are just to wide to get both ends in. Thats why I am thinking if the sound will be degraded if I just put the one side in and fasten it tight.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2014
    As long as one fork of the spade is seated flush, that should be enough contact area.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,813
    edited January 2014
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    The MIT's cannot unscrew to let you swap the termination as they are standard spade to spade unless specially ordered. I did unscreew the w4s as far as but those mit spades are just to wide to get both ends in. Thats why I am thinking if the sound will be degraded if I just put the one side in and fasten it tight.

    You can CAREFULLY pinch the spade ends towards each other to make the space smaller. In your case, I would get a bolt the same diameter of the binding post, put the spade over the bolt and then pinch the spade ends. That way you, hopefully, won't pinch them in too far.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited January 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    You can CAREFULLY pinch the spade ends towards each other to make the space smaller. In your case, I would get a bolt the same diameter of the binding post, put the spade over the bolt and then pinch the spade ends. That way you, hopefully, won't pinch them in too far.

    That sounds like audio black jack and knowing me I will go bust after too many pinches.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,813
    edited January 2014
    Yeah ok. I'd do it for you if we were closer, it's really not difficult.

    Have you talked with MIT about changing the ends to banana plugs?
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited January 2014
    I have a set of these for this situations.And they have worked fine on the AQ speaker cables i run to the dreadnaught

    http://www.musicdirect.com/p-220-audioquest-1002-banana-adapter-set-of-4.aspx
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited January 2014
    I contacted Joe and just asked if they could be swapped out easily and he told me that they come terminated that way and cannot be easily changed. I think I just need to get new amps that will take the spade, those spades are really thick metal.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited January 2014
    brgman wrote: »
    I have a set of these for this situations.And they have worked fine on the AQ speaker cables i run to the dreadnaught

    http://www.musicdirect.com/p-220-audioquest-1002-banana-adapter-set-of-4.aspx

    I never knew such an adapter was available, would these take anything away from the MIT's? They look like a great part time solution.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited January 2014
    PFB whenever I see you post about banana plugs or speaker cables and amps I be like

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  • Glen B
    Glen B Posts: 269
    edited January 2014
    brgman wrote: »
    I have a set of these for this situations.And they have worked fine on the AQ speaker cables i run to the dreadnaught

    http://www.musicdirect.com/p-220-audioquest-1002-banana-adapter-set-of-4.aspx

    Seconded. I have a set that I use when swapping amps.
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    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited January 2014
    Face wrote: »
    As long as one fork of the spade is seated flush, that should be enough contact area.

    ^ ^ ^ +1

    This will work, but be sure the pos and neg spade forks that are outside of the bp don't touch. This would be pretty difficult to accidentally do, but . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :lol:
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2014
    I would just get some coat hanger wire and wrap it around the MIT spade and then stick it under the amp binding post. Seriously, it will make those MIT cables sound much better. You do have to make sure you scrape all the paint off the coat hanger wire. It tends to put a veil over the lower mid-range if you leave the paint on the wire.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2014
    Don't you just hate those "intelligence tests" where they give you square pegs but round holes to fit them into? Just buying high end cables with prestigious Engineering University names is not ENOUGH. You also need a Ph.D. from a TOP TEN American University to KNOW how to use them properly. Not all of us have one of those. (Actually, some of "us", do!). lol

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