Velodyne SMS-1

PSOVLSK
PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
edited March 2014 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
Get the bass right in your HT. I found that this helped out more in my previous HT than it does in my current setup, thus the reason for letting it go. I listed it once before, but it obviously didn't sell.

Unit is in great shape. All accessories included. Original boxes for shipping. I'll throw in the Outlaw Audio guide for setting it up (it's available online, but I've already got it copied).

$275 shipped CONUS seems like a pretty good price.

Local (DFW) price is a little lower.
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  • rtart
    rtart Posts: 833
    edited January 2014
    Great price on a great unit. I used one for many years, and miss it. The ability to increase/decrease bass volume with a remote is a really nice feature - worth the price of the unit!
    My 7.4.4 DIY 4k Home Theater:
    Polk LSiM 707 L-C-R, LSiM702 side surrounds, LSiM 705 rears
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited January 2014
    Fella's this and the Antimode 8033 are GREAT units if you have an older AVR w/o sub EQ, or if you have MCACC as its not accurate as low as this unit is..
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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited January 2014
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Fella's this and the Antimode 8033 are GREAT units if you have an older AVR w/o sub EQ, or if you have MCACC as its not accurate as low as this unit is..

    There is really only one AVR EQ that can properly manage bass (incl. multiple subs) - Audyssey MultiEQ XT32. I have a receiver with MultiEQ XT (not 32) and it does a horrible job with bass management. SMS-1 made a HUGE difference in my case.
    Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
    Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
    Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
    Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
    B&W CDM1-SE fronts
    B&W CDM-CNT center
    B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
    JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
    Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
    DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
    Belkin PF60 Power Center
    Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
    Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room
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  • jon s
    jon s Posts: 905
    edited January 2014
    how much to Hawaii?
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited January 2014
    jon s wrote: »
    how much to Hawaii?

    Shoot me a pm with specifics (city, zip) and I'll figure it up for you.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited January 2014
    bump
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  • cr136124
    cr136124 Posts: 186
    edited January 2014
    One other cool thing about this unit is the fact that you can do changes on the fly, and see how those changes impact the subwoofer frequency response at your room via the SMS-1 FR graph at your TV or projector screen.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited January 2014
    This thing is gonna end up back in my HT if someone doesn't buy it soon...which won't really be all bad.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • Devlon
    Devlon Posts: 355
    edited January 2014
    ViperZ wrote: »
    There is really only one AVR EQ that can properly manage bass (incl. multiple subs) - Audyssey MultiEQ XT32. I have a receiver with MultiEQ XT (not 32) and it does a horrible job with bass management. SMS-1 made a HUGE difference in my case.

    The R-972 with Trinnov does an amazing job at EQing sub(s). I have a pair of Micropro 4000's and
    Trinnov adjusted the EQ down at 18hz. Not sure Audyssey corrects EQ that low.
    Living Room: HK AVR 354 as pre/pro, 2 x Polk Audio Micropro 4000, Adcom GFA-7500, 2 x Mirage OMD-15
    2 x Mirage OMD-5, 1 x Mirage OMD-C1, APC H15, Sony S790, Philips 52" LCD, Beogram 3000, FAT (Firestone Audio Tobby DAC), Harmony One

    Den: Sherwood R-972,as pre/pro, 2 x Velodyne SPL-1000R, 3 x Crown Drivecore XLS1500, 2 x Polk Audio Lsi9
    1 x Polk Audio Lsic, 2 x Polk Audio Lsifx, Sony S790, APC H15, Dspeaker Dual Core 2.0, W4S DAC 2, Keces DA-151
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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited January 2014
    Devlon wrote: »
    The R-972 with Trinnov does an amazing job at EQing sub(s). I have a pair of Micropro 4000's and
    Trinnov adjusted the EQ down at 18hz. Not sure Audyssey corrects EQ that low.

    Don't want to start a discussion here, but I do not believe Trinnov does *individual* calibration of each sub.
    Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
    Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
    Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
    Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
    B&W CDM1-SE fronts
    B&W CDM-CNT center
    B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
    JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
    Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
    DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
    Belkin PF60 Power Center
    Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
    Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited January 2014
    Trades? Not sure that I want/need anything though.
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  • mufsoman
    mufsoman Posts: 632
    edited January 2014
    psovlsk - I have a pair of black Fxi5, Csi5 and PSW10 I could trade......
    Parasound HCA-2003A & 2205A
    Front: Rti12's
    Center: Csi A6
    Side surrounds: Polk Rti A1's
    Atmos: Mirage Nanosats
    APC H15
    Power cords by Pepster, Morrow MA4 IC's, AQ Midnight, AQ Chocolate HDMI's[/SIZE]
    The rest is TBD.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited January 2014
    Unfortunately, I've got two pair of speakers I'm trying to get rid of.

    Honestly, slim chance a trade will work because I'm actually in "sell" mode, instead of "buy" mode. Thanks though!
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited February 2014
    $250 shipped? That's as low as I'll go.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited February 2014
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    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited February 2014
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  • mufsoman
    mufsoman Posts: 632
    edited February 2014
    PM sent
    Parasound HCA-2003A & 2205A
    Front: Rti12's
    Center: Csi A6
    Side surrounds: Polk Rti A1's
    Atmos: Mirage Nanosats
    APC H15
    Power cords by Pepster, Morrow MA4 IC's, AQ Midnight, AQ Chocolate HDMI's[/SIZE]
    The rest is TBD.
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  • mufsoman
    mufsoman Posts: 632
    edited February 2014
    psovlsk - YOUR MAIL BOX IS FULL, PLEASE PURGE !!!!
    Parasound HCA-2003A & 2205A
    Front: Rti12's
    Center: Csi A6
    Side surrounds: Polk Rti A1's
    Atmos: Mirage Nanosats
    APC H15
    Power cords by Pepster, Morrow MA4 IC's, AQ Midnight, AQ Chocolate HDMI's[/SIZE]
    The rest is TBD.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited February 2014
    Purged and replied:)
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited February 2014
    Sold!
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited February 2014
    Congrats on the sale Paul, someone got a sweet deal on a nice little sub eq unit. I really like how you can adjust it in real time and see the graph on the tv screen.
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  • mufsoman
    mufsoman Posts: 632
    edited February 2014
    Yes he did finally sell something, and I'm looking forward to adding this new toy to the rig!!!! Paul was awesome to work with on the transaction. Now I have figure out where/how to fit it into the equipment cabinet and redo my cable management. Not a bad problem to have though....
    Parasound HCA-2003A & 2205A
    Front: Rti12's
    Center: Csi A6
    Side surrounds: Polk Rti A1's
    Atmos: Mirage Nanosats
    APC H15
    Power cords by Pepster, Morrow MA4 IC's, AQ Midnight, AQ Chocolate HDMI's[/SIZE]
    The rest is TBD.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited February 2014
    Question...how do you plan to implement this unit in your system with two subs? It will only do one curve correct? Or, the better question is where are your subs positioned?
    2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,228
    edited February 2014
    DSkip wrote: »
    I don't believe it. Paul actually sold something!

    Watch it now.

    My cables sold so fast you never even saw the threads. haha
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited February 2014
    WLDock wrote: »
    Question...how do you plan to implement this unit in your system with two subs? It will only do one curve correct? Or, the better question is where are your subs positioned?
    Looks like he has 2 Epik Legend subs. If the setup is anything like my 8033 , you can sum the subs with a y connector .
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited February 2014
    I was just wondering if his sub's were in different locations like sub 1in the left front corner and sub 2 behind the right rear side of the couch. If so, it would be tough for one eq curve to resolve/correct both, right? Or would it still work with the mic at the listening position correcting the sum of the two sub's? Maybe the results will be better than no eq at all?
    2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2
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  • mufsoman
    mufsoman Posts: 632
    edited February 2014
    The SMS-1 has capability to connect three subs, so no need for a Y adapter, which is what I'm using now to split the signal to two subs. One sub is currently in the front right corner, the other is next to the rear row of seating on the right side also. In my setup, there is no wall on the left, pool table area and no rear wall, bar area. Not too many choices for sub placement. I know I have peaks and valleys in the bass response by using a Reives test disc and RS db meter. The SC07 MCACC does not correct for the bass, so Im hoping the SMS-1 can add enough equalizing control to help smooth out the bass response. Bass traps will also be needed eventually and is on the wanted list. I know the SMS-1 does not separately adjust each sub, but looking to see what it can do. I may move the back right sub to front left and try that location also. I'm looking forward to having fun testing a lot of sub locations, mic locations, and other adjustments. If for some reason it doesn't help, look for it in the FS forum......
    Parasound HCA-2003A & 2205A
    Front: Rti12's
    Center: Csi A6
    Side surrounds: Polk Rti A1's
    Atmos: Mirage Nanosats
    APC H15
    Power cords by Pepster, Morrow MA4 IC's, AQ Midnight, AQ Chocolate HDMI's[/SIZE]
    The rest is TBD.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited February 2014
    Ok, I see...that is what I was wondering. Even with one curve you never know what it will do unless you try it.
    2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2
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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited February 2014
    WLDock wrote: »
    Ok, I see...that is what I was wondering. Even with one curve you never know what it will do unless you try it.

    It is "one curve", because it does total room response. Like already mentioned, SMS-1 has 3 sub outputs, so no need to worry about Y-adapters. Made a huge difference in my case vs. any AVR, except pretty much for XT32 equipped AVRs.
    Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
    Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
    Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
    Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
    B&W CDM1-SE fronts
    B&W CDM-CNT center
    B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
    JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
    Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
    DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
    Belkin PF60 Power Center
    Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
    Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited February 2014
    Yeah, I have been researching solutions and considered this unit (Great price this sold for!) as well as the Antimode. However, XT32 is something I wanted to to since it came out. So, the plan is to abandon the Pioneer Elite unit in favor of the Onkyo 818. At some point I still plan to try the MiniDSP....especially if XT32 does not work out....but I plan to really play with it and learn it so we will see. Only one sub for now but would like to up the learning curve by the time I crave and have space for a second.

    OK, I will shut up....this post is dead/sold!
    2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2
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