Emotiva vs. Adcom

Mr. Sharpe
Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
edited January 2014 in Electronics
Which one would you get? I want something to power my monitor 10's, I usually would just jump right on adcom bc I grew up listening to their gfa 1. I was thinking of if I went adcom matching the components, like preamp amp etc. I already have good sources.

If you went adcom which preamp is good? All of them? I read they don't make a good better best so....

And any experience with emotiva amps, the sound compared to adcom.
Home theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505

Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,244
    edited December 2013
    If going Adcom.

    Pre Amp.

    GFP-750 Best..
    GFP-715

    Amp.

    GFA 5802..


    I had owned the XPA-2 and I do own the GFA-5802, there is a reason I own the Adcom and sold the Emotiva.. The Emotiva just didn't mesh well with my system..

    With that said Audio Alan ( a member here ) owns the XPA-2, and I have been to his house, and his system sounded great..
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited December 2013
    Any of the less expensive models? The two you mentioned are out of my range. 600 is budget but I'd like an amp with it
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • PreCd
    PreCd Posts: 786
    edited December 2013
    The 5802 has the Mosfets which is why it is considered a Adcom amp worthy of owning. I have never laid ears on one but anyone I have talked with that owned one sang its praises.

    I power my SDA2Bs with a GFA-545 and it is plenty of amp for those. I am not familiar with the speakers you have but if the 545 is not able to manhandle them go to the GFA-555. The 545 is around $180 for a nice respectable amp and the 555 around $300.

    After I posted I noticed that the monitor 10s are part of your 5 channel system. Forget what I said ^
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Any of the less expensive models? The two you mentioned are out of my range. 600 is budget but I'd like an amp with it
    SDA2BTL
    Marantz CD5004
    Adcom GFA-545
    Bottlehead Quickie Tube Preamp
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited December 2013
    Eh I put them in my two channel system after listening to them.

    I forget which of the 555's more desirable? The older one right?
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • PreCd
    PreCd Posts: 786
    edited December 2013
    The 555 is more desirable over the 555 II yes. However the II does have speaker protection which the 555 MKI does not. Like I said before the 545 drives my SDA2Bs like there is no tomorrow and sounds wonderful. I owned a 555 and sold it because it was more amp than I needed for my little room. Come to think of it the SDAs are too much for my little room!

    Also the 555 MKI does have the problems with leaky electrolytics. The 555II does.

    Good luck.
    SDA2BTL
    Marantz CD5004
    Adcom GFA-545
    Bottlehead Quickie Tube Preamp
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited December 2013
    Thank you much, I actually jumped on a big parasound late last night, always wanted one of their amps.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited December 2013
    In general, Parasounds have a warmer signature than Adcoms. And the better Adcoms are the earliest Pass iterations, as a rule.

    Adcoms are a workhorse that will run and run and run, with a neutral sound for the most part, don't add or subtract much from what's in the original source.

    But I find Parasounds a little more pleasing to the "ear" because of their warmer signature.

    Nonetheless, I have a GFA-555 as a go to power amp below that's never failed me and can run most speakers. It's also a great bang for your buck amp compared to many others because you can get it for "less" coin!

    Enjoy!

    cnh
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    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,244
    edited December 2013
    Good choice going with parasound , as CNH said they are pleasing to the ear..
  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited December 2013
    Have had multiples of each imho parasound is just plain better. More serviceable, modable and less fatigueing to the ears good choice.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited December 2013
    nbrowser wrote: »
    You won't be disappointed, now which model did you pick up ?

    HCA 1500A. It's probably a little much power wise, but it really was a deal.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited December 2013
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    HCA 1500A. It's probably a little much power wise, but it really was a deal.

    Have had the 1500A powering SDA's before, great combo. You did well!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2013
    PreCd wrote: »

    Also the 555 MKI does have the problems with leaky electrolytics. The 555II does.

    Good luck.

    No, the the 585 with the leaky caps.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • polklifer
    polklifer Posts: 40
    edited December 2013
    I have both in my stable, the Adcom 5802 and the Emotiva XPA-2..that said, the Adcom still takes the place on the rack, the Emotiva is an awesome amp, but, synergy was not quite what I was planning on, currently using the Emotiva, am building a DN IC cable

    The Adcom is awesome, but the Emo was brand new, with a warranty, nothing better than a brand-new shiny amp...:)

    Cheers!
  • mccarty250
    mccarty250 Posts: 220
    edited December 2013
    Great info, I can state that I have an XDA-2 preamp and love it. Thumbs up for emotiva but I've heard nothing but good about the adcoms as well.
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited December 2013
    thanks all, I figured I did good jumping on this one:) I can't wait to get it either, ships out tomorrow!
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited December 2013
    I cannot recommend Emotiva in any way, shape, or form with the exception of home theatre. Even then, you can do better..... You will be sorry if you use Emotiva for 2 channel. That's my blunt, honest opinion.
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    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited December 2013
    even in my humble system it has yet to cough up a hairball when I ask it to provide power :)

    :lol:
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    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited December 2013
    Sorry Mr. Sharp, just realised you bought a Parasound amp. Much better choice han either Adcom and especially Emotiva. Please let us know what you think after giving a listen. :smile:
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited December 2013
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Mr. Sharpe, ask tonyb how quick I justed on my Parasound...lol. Just you wait til you get that beauty home, hook it up, let it warm up then give it outright hell!

    Words of advice, it'll run a touch warm, don't be alarmed. Don't run the gains maxed out, results in noise at lower volumes and finally, enjoy that **** :)

    ah, a little heat never hurt anybody:)
    headrott wrote: »
    I cannot recommend Emotiva in any way, shape, or form with the exception of home theatre. Even then, you can do better..... You will be sorry if you use Emotiva for 2 channel. That's my blunt, honest opinion.

    wow thanks, I almost got their larger 2 ch. amp too off amazon, glad I didn't.
    headrott wrote: »
    Sorry Mr. Sharp, just realised you bought a Parasound amp. Much better choice han either Adcom and especially Emotiva. Please let us know what you think after giving a listen. :smile:

    no need to apologize sir, I can't wait to get it!!!
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited January 2014
    So I got the amp today, it's really nice, it looked brand new but damn it all if I didn't nick it with my knife cutting it out of the bubble wrap:(( that was so stupid, I wanted to kick myself for diong that!!

    Anyways, so I'm going to be using my Onkyo tx 8555 receiver as a preamp and can't figure out how to use the Remote trigger to turn the amp on with it.... I did cut apart a 3.5mm cable and it had 3 wires, I'm guessing one for each channel and ground wire. this amp only has little screws for the trigger input labeled 12volt and a ground. hooked the ground wires to ground and tried hooking both other wires into the 12v screw, also tried doing the same only using one of the wires for the 12v screw.

    nothing happened with both of those. is the in and out on this receiver even used for triggering something like an amp to come on?? surely it is.

    http://www.avland.co.uk/aasp/onkyo/0920/tx8555/rearlrg.jpg

    see the IR in/out? the rear of this unit is the same for American piece. or am I completely missing it and is it the RI remote control? I haven't even tried it lol
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited January 2014
    I know what the phono ground is for thanks. I was talking about there's a Ground screw on the back of the amplifier that is used for 12v trigger. The RI remote control is awful close to the phono ground on the receiver though.

    okay so a mono cable, can do I just hope it works and does what I want it to do.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited January 2014
    I saw where someone plugged a 12v power supply into the switched outlet on his preamp and it worked. What should I consider if doing that? use a 2 amp? all this amplifier needs 15ma to trigger it, 2 amps is 2,000 miliamps.... would that burn something up?
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
    edited January 2014
    No it will only draw what it needs to turn the. Amp on.
    Home Theater
    Onkyo PR-SC5508 Sharp LC-70LE847U
    Emotiva XPA-5 Emotiva XPA-2 Emotiva UPA-2
    Front RTi-A9 Wide RTi-A7 Center CSi-A6 Surround FXi-A6 Rear RTi-A3 Sub 2x PSW505
    Sony BDP-S790 Dishnetwork Hopper/Joey Logitech Harmony One Apple TV
    Two Channel
    Oppo 105D BAT VK-500 w/BatPack SDA SRS 2.3 Dreadnought Squeezebox Touch Apple TV
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited January 2014
    m'kay, that just seems like the easiest way to do it. the manual for the Onkyo says I would have to have a ir emmitter and I see no point in doing that if I can just use the switched outlet and a 12v power supply. thank you.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited January 2014
    I have a 19 volt power supply for my laptop 3.2amp, would that work is that too high voltage?
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited January 2014
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier