Pulled the trigger on an Oppo last night. . .

drumminman
drumminman Posts: 3,396
edited January 2014 in 2 Channel Audio
the 105. Stepping into the world of hi-rez and really looking forward to it. I plan to use it in the 2 channel system and occasionally in the HT.

Wonder how it'll compare to my present dac, a Peter Daniel NOS, on redbook? My set up now has a very sweet, clear analog sound - hope the Oppo is at least as good. If not the PD Dac may stay.
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  • allstock
    allstock Posts: 136
    edited December 2013
    I'm picking mine up today! I will be using it the same as you, in the two-channel and I'll plug it in in the ht when I want to. I as well am curious to see how it compares to my Moon 100d dac and Nad cd player for redbook. Keep us posted!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited December 2013
    drumminman wrote: »
    the 105. Stepping into the world of hi-rez and really looking forward to it. I plan to use it in the 2 channel system and occasionally in the HT.

    Wonder how it'll compare to my present dac, a Peter Daniel NOS, on redbook? My set up now has a very sweet, clear analog sound - hope the Oppo is at least as good. If not the PD Dac may stay.

    I think you'll find 2 very different presentations. You'll just have to decide which one sounds better to you.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited December 2013
    Sounds like it was finally the right "Oppo"tunity for you :biggrin:.

    Enjoy!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited December 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    I think you'll find 2 very different presentations. You'll just have to decide which one sounds better to you.

    This^^^^ I am using the OPPO 105 in my 2ch and love it, You will find both sounding good/great, it will all come down to your taste..
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited December 2013
    The Oppo revolution...enjoy it!
    I wish I had the funds myself as there is a used on on CL in the Chi area with a $1K asking price.
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  • TNHNDYMAN
    TNHNDYMAN Posts: 2,145
    edited December 2013
    Congrats to both. Looking forward to your impressions due to the 105 being on my short list as well.
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited December 2013
    Thanks everyone!

    Ordered it from Crutchfield since the to my door cost was $30 less, with a 2 day delivery. Since it's a Xmas present I may have to wait to get it up and running :sad:
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited December 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    I think you'll find 2 very different presentations. You'll just have to decide which one sounds better to you.
    Agreed, my guess is the Oppo will give you a more forward sound with a bit more detail and sparkle. You'll have to decide which signature you prefer, though both will be superb at what they do.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,287
    edited December 2013
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Sounds like it was finally the right "Oppo"tunity for you :biggrin:.

    Enjoy!

    Dan your just so full of $hit's and giggles this week....lol

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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited December 2013
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Dan your just so full of $hit's and giggles this week....lol

    Congrats>>>Review>>>Review>>>Review
    Good one Dan,lol!!! Congrats drummin and allstock, welcome to the Oppo family!
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited December 2013
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Dan your just so full of $hit's and giggles this week....lol

    See thats the normal me, I just used to filter myself more than I do now. Feeling like crap tends to make you take lots of Fukitol which means that what you give lol.....
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Congrats>>>Review>>>Review>>>Review

    Que?
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited December 2013
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    Agreed, my guess is the Oppo will give you a more forward sound with a bit more detail and sparkle. You'll have to decide which signature you prefer, though both will be superb at what they do.

    Interesting! If so, I would not like that! Will be sticking with the Jolida below, smooth, musical, and detailed "enough" without getting carried away. But if you have YOUNG ears and you like that "sparkle", go ahead!

    It really IS a matter of tastes. I find a lot of >1000 dollar DACs too bright and forward for my tastes!
    I'm just a "mellow" dude.

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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited December 2013
    The Oppo isn't excessively bright, in fact it's not bright at all. It's just a bit more forward sounding than that Peter Daniel. It has gobs of detail without going over the top, IMO its the perfect balance between detail and musicality. If you like a really smoothed over, syrupy sound then the Oppo isn't that, it provides you with too much detail and precision. But it doesn't sound sterile or cold either. It has a great balance, that's why I like the damn thing so much.
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    edited December 2013
    Congratulations I hope you enjoy it. I will be ordering the 103 Darbee after the New Year. I wonder did you happen to inquire about a 105 Darbee edition? I would hate to get mine and find out they plan on coming out with the 105D a few months after my purchase. I was told by the CS rep that they possibly might consider a 105D later this year but its not likely to happen enjoy your 105 I am happy for you.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited December 2013
    The 105 Darbe is several months out it looks like. I personally don't see the big deal with Darbee, but then I'm an audiophile not a videophile.
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  • mytime
    mytime Posts: 87
    edited December 2013
    Sweet. I want one . My DVD-A /SACD player is very low end. Pioneer DV-610 AVk
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  • aboroth00
    aboroth00 Posts: 1,106
    edited December 2013
    Congrats buddy. I've been enjoying my Oppo 105 for a month now and I have only good things to say. I'm eager to get my XLR interconnects to hook it up to my BAT preamp.
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited December 2013
    I think people confuse detail with digital edge. Music can be very detailed and musically involving. Detail good....digital edge not so much.

    Congrats on the new piece.

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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited December 2013
    Congratulations Fred. I hope you enjoy the 105. Haven't heard it myself, but many people seem to enjoy it. Let us know your thoughts and comparison to your current setup.
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited December 2013
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    The Oppo isn't excessively bright, in fact it's not bright at all. It's just a bit more forward sounding than that Peter Daniel. It has gobs of detail without going over the top, IMO its the perfect balance between detail and musicality. If you like a really smoothed over, syrupy sound then the Oppo isn't that, it provides you with too much detail and precision. But it doesn't sound sterile or cold either. It has a great balance, that's why I like the damn thing so much.

    More forward sounding with great detail and musicality sounds like my cup of tea. Just don't want a nasty digital glare. Your description sounds like the vast majority of reviews that I've read. The qualities I like about the Peter Daniel Dac is that it's smooth and musical, but with plenty of detail. It doesn't have a digital edge to it. It's really a tough Dac to beat, so we'll see how the 105 stacks up.
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  • allstock
    allstock Posts: 136
    edited December 2013
    So far I'm very impressed, starting with the packaging, it just oozes quality. Right out the box I feel it surpasses my Moon Dac/Nad cd player combo in every respect with redbook. Having said that I'm only three cd's in... I don't feel it's bright at all, detailed yes but smooooooth. I'm looking forward to trying out it's video capabilities and some break-in time, which is rumoured to be long, like 200 hours.
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited December 2013
    Dang! Mine's supposed to be delivered tomorrow - if I'm home to sign for it.
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  • mytime
    mytime Posts: 87
    edited December 2013
    drumminman wrote: »
    Dang! Mine's supposed to be delivered tomorrow - if I'm home to sign for it.
    Sounds like a good day to be sick.
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  • allstock
    allstock Posts: 136
    edited December 2013
    drumminman wrote: »
    Dang! Mine's supposed to be delivered tomorrow - if I'm home to sign for it.
    Oh too bad. I'm lucky, the Canadian distributor is 10 minutes from my shop, I just went and picked it up!
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  • aboroth00
    aboroth00 Posts: 1,106
    edited December 2013
    Audiophile lingo varies from person to person sometimes. So I must ask, what is digital edge? I'm not sure whether I heard it or not.
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited December 2013
    I think he's using the term digital edge to describe the same thing as digital glare: a harshness in the high frequencies that brings about listener fatigue, or causes one to turn down the volume.
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  • aboroth00
    aboroth00 Posts: 1,106
    edited December 2013
    drumminman wrote: »
    I think he's using the term digital edge to describe the same thing as digital glare: a harshness in the high frequencies that brings about listener fatigue, or causes one to turn down the volume.

    Ahh... got it. I usually have that problem with brighter, metal dome speakers. Ever since I moved onto tube preamps, never really had that problem :P.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited December 2013
    Congrats on your Oppo 105! One of the advantages of the ESS Sabre DAC chip is how it handles S/PDIF. The ES9018 DAC chip does not handle SPDIF like most SPDF receivers do; it does not rely totally on the embedded clock in the S/PDIF signal. It handles it far better and asynchronously. And don't fear 32 bit volume control. My pre doesn't have a remote so I use my DAC to control digital volume. No harm to SQ, at all. Now 16 bit volume would be a different story.

    The ESS white paper is an interesting read. Section III deals with the S/PDIF interface.

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2013
    Are you going to be playing any Hard Disk Drive sourced material thru it? If so, give us some details on the GUI.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited December 2013
    I created a thread on the 105 but don't think Steve's specific question is covered. I wanna say I've talked about it on here before, but here are my thoughts:

    I still think that JRemote or the Apple remote app (when using JRiver and the Airport Express, respectively) offer the cleanest and nicest interface for browsing content on the Oppo, but I also do have a USB drive attached to my player that has about 3TB of flac files (redbook and hi-res) and concerts ripped from DVD.

    For an interface you have two options. You can navigate directly on the Oppo using the TV display or if you have a tablet you can download the MediaControl app (this is what I do so that I can have the TV off when listening to music). Either way it's really simple to use, though not the most elegant solution. It's a folder browser like what you'd find in Window Explorer (or Finder if you're a Mac guy). This means your music needs to be organized physically in a manner that is conducive to finding what you want by browsing folders. Note that this approach completely bypasses the library method, so all your tagging and such is basically rendered moot here, it's all about folder structure.

    Oppo does have some type of library program called Gracenote that builds a library and lets you browse that way, but I've never played with it.

    Here is my thread on the 105:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?149192-Oppo-BDP-105-thoughts
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