AVR with Audyssey DSX

LeftCoast
LeftCoast Posts: 406
edited November 2013 in Electronics
Hi Everyone

Moving into my new place soon! I'm trying to decide between AVR that feature Audyssey DSX

Reviews I've researched have tended to favor the Onkyo 5010 over the Denon 4520. I'm going to do the full 11.1. I have a great Sunfire amp I bought from Nooshinjohn. I'd like to use it to power my center, rt, lt and wide speakers, then use the AVR to power the remaining 6 speakers and sub for the full 11.1

Is this possible?
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited November 2013
    Yes, that is possible. What reviews are you seeing that the Onkyo favors the Denon? Personally, I'd take the Denon over the Onkyo, but I tend the favor the Denon since I currently have the 4520 and it works and sounds awesome! Audyssey XT32 and the ability to calibrate dual subs, is the icing on the cake...
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited November 2013
    LeftCoast wrote: »
    Is this possible?

    Yes.

    P.S. that amp you have is very special. I am regretting not buying it instead of my 60" plasma :smile:. I bet it makes your setup shine!
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,650
    edited November 2013
    Yes.

    P.S. that amp you have is very special. I am regretting not buying it instead of my 60" plasma :smile:. I bet it makes your setup shine!

    You and me both Dan...you and me both.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • LeftCoast
    LeftCoast Posts: 406
    edited November 2013
    MikeC78 wrote: »
    Yes, that is possible. What reviews are you seeing that the Onkyo favors the Denon? Personally, I'd take the Denon over the Onkyo, but I tend the favor the Denon since I currently have the 4520 and it works and sounds awesome! Audyssey XT32 and the ability to calibrate dual subs, is the icing on the cake...

    I saw a review where the writer was a big Onkyo guy, and had the Onkyo 5010. He reviewed the Denon 4520, and after the review, liked it so much he decided to stick with it instead of his beloved Onkyo!

    I saw a couple of reviews that said approximately the same thing: Sang the praises of the Denon, but said that it fell a bit short as far as punch and attack compared to rival receivers.

    Of course, with the Sunfire running the front 5 speakers, maybe this isn't even an issue???

    Thanks for you responses guys. They certainly help.
  • LeftCoast
    LeftCoast Posts: 406
    edited November 2013
    Yes.

    P.S. that amp you have is very special. I am regretting not buying it instead of my 60" plasma :smile:. I bet it makes your setup shine!

    Thanks. It's comforting to know that I'm stumbling blindly along the right path. lol
  • begbie
    begbie Posts: 630
    edited November 2013
    Isn't the Onkyo 5010 capable of going 11.4? That would sound awesome :0
    Polk Rt800i -Fronts
    Polk cs400i -Center
    Polk fx500i -side surrounds
    Polk rc60i -rear surrounds
    Onkyo TX-NR 1009 (9.2) receiver
    Velodyne cht12
    Polk psw111
  • LeftCoast
    LeftCoast Posts: 406
    edited November 2013
    begbie wrote: »
    Isn't the Onkyo 5010 capable of going 11.4? That would sound awesome :0

    It certainly would be, but the extra subs would probably start to strain my budget a bit. I still have to order a bunch of furniture, etc. as well. I have a pretty big sub already...SVS PBS 12/2. I think that should be fine for now...If anything, maybe if I find a good price on another SVS, I'd consider it. But four of them?

    If I got 4, maybe I'd organize a listening session, slip in The Hurt Locker Blu ray, crank it up and see who can stay in the room the longest. :)
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,409
    edited November 2013
    begbie wrote: »
    Isn't the Onkyo 5010 capable of going 11.4? That would sound awesome :0

    Yeah, the 5010 is 11.4 capable.

    To the OP, have you considered the 3010? It pretty much has everything the 5010 has minus 5wpc. It has 11.4 pre-outs and XT32 with sub EQ also, you just don't pay as much.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited November 2013
    Geoff4rfc wrote: »
    Yeah, the 5010 is 11.4 capable.

    To the OP, have you considered the 3010? It pretty much has everything the 5010 has minus 5wpc. It has 11.4 pre-outs and XT32 with sub EQ also, you just don't pay as much.
    THIS. I was in the same conundrum when my 1007 died and ended up going with an open box 3010 from OneCall through Amazon... and I've been very happy. It even has the full factory warranty. You're looking at a ridiculously good AVR for under $1,500 that can do everything you need, and my "open box" unit didn't look like it had ever been opened. It's certainly in mint condition if it was. Full disclosure: I got a bad Audyssey mic with it, but Onkyo had a new one out to me very quickly.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • LeftCoast
    LeftCoast Posts: 406
    edited November 2013
    Geoff4rfc wrote: »
    Yeah, the 5010 is 11.4 capable.

    To the OP, have you considered the 3010? It pretty much has everything the 5010 has minus 5wpc. It has 11.4 pre-outs and XT32 with sub EQ also, you just don't pay as much.

    Awesome! Thanks Geoff and Kuntasensei The other AVR I was considering was the Denon 4520. I don't have any brand loyalty either way. I had a question about reliability, so called 3 different installers in the area. None of them stated any difference in reliability between the two brands.

    I'm looking into the KEF Q Series speakers. The guy gave me a fantastic prices on them. He also carries Denon. I'll see if he can beat the price on the Onkyo 3010.

    Thanks Again.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited November 2013
    LC I am VERY jealous of you. The KEF's have me pretty interested, specifically the Q900's, however they are unobtainable to me for various reasons. I look forward to your thoughts.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • LeftCoast
    LeftCoast Posts: 406
    edited November 2013
    LC I am VERY jealous of you. The KEF's have me pretty interested, specifically the Q900's, however they are unobtainable to me for various reasons. I look forward to your thoughts.

    Thanks, ES. I am lucking into some good deals, for sure. But luck is all perspective and it's about time some good luck started coming my way.
    A couple of years ago, I started acquiring equipment for the house I'd buy some day...Never thought it would be 3 years before that happened. I helped a friend move from Los Angeles to Texas as an excuse to take a road trip there to buy a set of SRT that someone was selling on Craigslist.
    I was renting a room from a friend, and if he would've just cleared some of his stuff out of the room, I could've fit everything in the room I was renting. He's a bit eccentric. He convinced me to put it in a public storage unit.
    Long story, short...They got stolen. Along with a set of rt2000 which included cs1000 and fx/1000. They were mint. And also a few other odds and ends.

    All in all when you figure in the cost for the storage unit, the cost in gas and hotels... never mind the time and energy investment...I was out 8 grand.

    And I never got to even listen to any of them.

    So if a little big of luck is trickling my way, forgive me if I feel like I deserve it.

    Thanks again for everyone's guidance and opinions. Maybe I can finagle a group discount for all Polkies interested in the KEF Q's. :)
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited November 2013
    LeftCoast wrote: »
    So if a little big of luck is trickling my way, forgive me if I feel like I deserve it.

    Its all good man, luck is what it is. Sorry you went through that, glad its working out for ya....

    Someday you eat the bear......
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • drummer86
    drummer86 Posts: 441
    edited November 2013
    FWIW the local installer that sold me my Totems won't touch Onkyo/Integra with a 10ft pole at this point. He has a garage full of Integra Pres and Onkyo receivers pulled from customers homes after they went kaput. Maybe they've fixed a lot of issues they've had of late but it'd be a little too risky for my hard earned dollars. He's replaced most of them with Arcam, Anthem, and NAD units.
    Display: LG 47" LCD | AVR: Marantz SR5005 | BD: Panasonic BDT-210 | CD/SACD: Oppo 980 |
    Amps: Rotel RB-990bx | Marantz MA-500 | Speakers: Totem Mite : Totem Mite-C : RC60i | Sub: HSU VTF-2 MKIV

    HK AVR635 | Polk R30 | Sony DVD/SACD Player
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,409
    edited November 2013
    drummer86 wrote: »
    FWIW the local installer that sold me my Totems won't touch Onkyo/Integra with a 10ft pole at this point. He has a garage full of Integra Pres and Onkyo receivers pulled from customers homes after they went kaput. Maybe they've fixed a lot of issues they've had of late but it'd be a little too risky for my hard earned dollars. He's replaced most of them with Arcam, Anthem, and NAD units.

    No doubt, Onkyo has had more than it's fair share of HDMI failures. Another FWIW, my 807 was one year out of warranty when my HDMI board failed and they did a one time out of warranty fix for me. The only thing I paid was one way shipping within the same state as me. Free fix and free shipping back to me.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
  • LeftCoast
    LeftCoast Posts: 406
    edited November 2013
    drummer86 wrote: »
    FWIW the local installer that sold me my Totems won't touch Onkyo/Integra with a 10ft pole at this point. He has a garage full of Integra Pres and Onkyo receivers pulled from customers homes after they went kaput. Maybe they've fixed a lot of issues they've had of late but it'd be a little too risky for my hard earned dollars. He's replaced most of them with Arcam, Anthem, and NAD units.

    One of the installers I spoke to said the same about current Onkyo's, except that he thinks they've fixed the issues.

    Denon? I seriously doubt I will ever use 4 subs.
  • 4xoddic
    4xoddic Posts: 372
    edited November 2013
    ? on Audyssey:

    "Recently, David A. Rich, of Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity, has shown evidence that the Marantz AV8801—and likely every other model that includes Audyssey software—downsamples all higher-resolution signals to 24/48. While Audyssey itself does not downsample high-rez signals, the MIPS required to process 24-bit/192kHz data would effectively quadruple the load placed on the host pre-pro and, of course, increase its cost. The decision to downsample, therefore, is left to the pre-pro manufacturer."

    http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-61-page-2