Turntable, tube mono's tube pre and a phono for 2 ch rig

polkfarmboy
polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
edited November 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
Well I am putting together another 2 channel system and have decided to have the best of both worlds. Here is a link to my first attempt back in April. http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?148153-OK-here-s-my-first-2-ch-system-partly-done-with-pics

I did as a question about vinyl here in this thread http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?149364-Need-advice-for-getting-into-vinyl-.....-totally-clueless!!! but I kinda got talked out of doing the turntable and talked into buying a cheapo crap one because I am not worthy lol Well I am just goingto wing it and do as I always do and go with my gut,take a chance and hope it all works out great.

I wana buy a really good looking turntable but something better than the audioblock ps 100 model but dang thats a beauty. So I will go back to tube mono blocks as my tube integrated is not doing it for me. I will also need a nice cartridge, a phono stage, a tube pre amp and more ac cables and pricey ic's. I will be using a new ps audio perfectwave mk1 upgraded to mk2 status with the network bridge that I may have to buy a tablet with and a musicserver.

For cables I wont change, as they are awesome. The 1 meter wireworld platinum usb, wireworld gold eclipse seapker cables along with 3 pairs of platinum eclipse ic's and 5 wireworld electra ac cables.

For a super charge I am going to treat the listening enviroment with acoustic panels as those cables mentioned retail for $21050 so I wana get the most out of them dang it!!
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  • doctorcilantro
    doctorcilantro Posts: 2,028
    edited November 2013
    There are a lot of demos around where you can get a ClearAudio Concept with arm and cart for under 2K.

    Also check the makers of the WOW turntable can't remember name though.
    For Sale 2019:
    Tortuga Audio LDR passive preamp
    Decware EL34 amp
    Allnic H-1201 phono
    Zu Union Cubes
    iFi iDSD DAC, .5m UBS, iFI Gemini cable, Oyaide Tunami XLR 1.3M, Oyaide Tunami Speaker wire 1.5M, Beyerdynamic DT1990 headphones, PS Audio P3 power center

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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    doctorcilantro wrote: »
    There are a lot of demos around where you can get a ClearAudio Concept with arm and cart for under 2K.

    Also check the makers of the WOW turntable can't remember name though.
    The CA's are nice but I feel I need a step up from those as I can see myself getting an upgrade itch. I want a piece of TT **** on the rack but not something thats going to make my wallet empty as I have a lot of items to put together in a really short period of time... like 2 weeks tops.
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  • doctorcilantro
    doctorcilantro Posts: 2,028
    edited November 2013
    Love it man, TTPORN.COM...
    For Sale 2019:
    Tortuga Audio LDR passive preamp
    Decware EL34 amp
    Allnic H-1201 phono
    Zu Union Cubes
    iFi iDSD DAC, .5m UBS, iFI Gemini cable, Oyaide Tunami XLR 1.3M, Oyaide Tunami Speaker wire 1.5M, Beyerdynamic DT1990 headphones, PS Audio P3 power center

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited November 2013
    You are too impatient for a turntable. But if you want a big massive awesome looking table check out an older VPI TNT or HRX table. As you look at the pics remember they look 3 times bigger in person than in a pic. Don't forget to buy one with a remote so you can change songs quicker, its a real pain to get up and do it manually.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    I never have a problem with doing the volume on the tubes so vinyl should be no problem for me. I am buying this special cleaning solution to put old dirty lp's in the dishwasher and its only $90 a bottle!
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited November 2013
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    I never have a problem with doing the volume on the tubes so vinyl should be no problem for me. I am buying this special cleaning solution to put old dirty lp's in the dishwasher and its only $90 a bottle!

    I dont know if I would recommend that as its gonna screw up the labels on all the LP's unless you protect each one individually and thats gonna be costly.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited November 2013
    Here's something you can use on LPs and NEW skinny jeans:

    Record REVIRGINIZER!

    http://www.juno.co.uk/products/record-revirginizer-liquid-cleans-restores-vinyl-records/405433-01/

    And if your Father at Monsanto needs some new ingredient for modifying some grain staple, throw some RR in there! I''m sure the FDA will "approve" it! You know I'm kidding, right?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited November 2013
    Massive turntable?
    I'd be lookin' at SME or AVID...

    http://www.sme.ltd.uk/content/Turntables-1309.shtml
    http://www.avidhifi.co.uk/
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited November 2013
    Here is a nice statement piece for you, the Nottingham Anna Log.

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    I enjoyed this Nottingham Space 294 with Moerch DP6 for quite a while. The arm, record weight and periphery ring are extras.

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    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited November 2013
    I'd say that platter is too "small" and not "heavy" enough. Try this, all farm boys should have one around, no?

    OK, enough of me. Let the TT aficionados carry on!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited November 2013
    PFB...this is the one for you.


    McIntosh MT5

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    2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited November 2013
    cnh wrote: »
    I'd say that platter is too "small" and not "heavy" enough. Try this, all farm boys should have one around, no?

    OK, enough of me. Let the TT aficionados carry on!

    cnh

    big (transcription) platter? There can be only One. These are a little hard to come by; I am sworn to secrecy...

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    in all seriousness, the aforementioned Nottingham tts are also quite nice - I didn't include them in my earlier post 'cause I don't know anyone who has one; no ears-on experience.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,639
    edited November 2013
    Nice tables especially Cnh's :smile:
    ..
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    I was just kidding about the dishwasher thing lol, the MC TT is nice but they are like 5.5k on the used market and thats more than my budget right now. I am going to try out a solid state and tube pre with built in phono's. The tube mono blocks with a tube pre may be too much but I like the options I will have....

    I can play the perfectwave dac through the tube pre and into solid state amplification
    I can run the perfectwave dac through solid state preamplification into tube amps
    I can switch the vinyl to all solid state or all tube or half and half

    Its going to be interesting but now I feel I need to buy a fedora and go browsing old record stores.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited November 2013
    PFB what do you do for a living if I might ask? Cause with the disposable income your throwing around, I may need to change careers.

    And I am actually being serious here.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited November 2013
    Anyone of these will do.

    Thorens Prestige or Reference

    Pioneer Exclusive P3A

    Kenwood L-07D

    Technics SP-10MK3

    Microseiki 5000

    No Hold Barred = Clearaudio Statement!

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    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited November 2013
    There are tone of Tube Monos to choose from but I prefer big Triodes running in Parallel or SE config.

    It's not that I can afford any of these but it is likely you can.

    Cary AE805 Founder's Edition

    Viva Aurora

    Cadence Canyasa

    KR Audio Kronzilla DM

    Wavac MD-805MKII

    Airtight ATM-3011

    AudioNote Gakuon-II
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • drselect
    drselect Posts: 664
    edited November 2013
    PFB take a trip down 94 to the twin cities and check out http://www.needledoctor.com/
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    drselect wrote: »
    PFB take a trip down 94 to the twin cities and check out http://www.needledoctor.com/

    Never knew that was MN, I look there all the time.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited November 2013
    One of my fav Lenco builds by odey. Farm guys are handy, you could make one. ;)

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    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
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  • CoolJazz
    CoolJazz Posts: 570
    edited November 2013
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Never knew that was MN, I look there all the time.
    Don't worry about it at all PFB. It's a big state, it'd be easy to have missed it.
    A so called science type proudly says... "I do realize that I would fool myself all the time, about listening conclusions and many other observations, if I did listen before buying. That’s why I don’t, I bought all of my current gear based on technical parameters alone, such as specs and measurements."

    More amazing Internet Science Pink Panther wisdom..."My DAC has since been upgraded from Mark Levinson to Topping."
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    CoolJazz wrote: »
    Don't worry about it at all PFB. It's a big state, it'd be easy to have missed it.

    Well everything is on order and now I have to wait it out till it gets here. I will be sure to follow up the thread with pictures.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited November 2013
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    PFB what do you do for a living if I might ask? Cause with the disposable income your throwing around, I may need to change careers.

    And I am actually being serious here.

    He's a Trust Fund baby whose Father is the CEO of the Monsanto Corps. No. 224 on the Forbes 500 list.

    Less than 2.5 percent of Americans are in farming and Agri-giants control most of the land and produce. Next question!

    Or this is the biggest hoax this site has ever seen! You choose because PFB is not going to spill the beans.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    I don't think its really the done thing to ask people what they do, my job is nothing even worth mentioning. If I had a great job I would be happy to say.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited November 2013
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    I don't think its really the done thing to ask people what they do, my job is nothing even worth mentioning. If I had a great job I would be happy to say.

    Dude, no one really cares what you do, it's just hard to believe most of your dealings and activities so it leads people to wonder out loud. No one else is budgeting or coughing up 10s of thousands for whatever at the drop of a hat. At your age, if I had that kind of disposable capital, I'd be stoking my 401K!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    Here is a picture with the new electromotion electrostats with the ps audio perfectwave, dared mc 7p preamp with upgraded tubes, and the primaluna pro 6 mono blocks. Now I have to wait for the solid statepre and turntable on Wednesday.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    I feel like I have to switch my speakers around to see whats happening with this dared preamp as the Electromotion sound better than I have ever heard my Vista's since I have been going through my familiar tracks for evaluation.
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  • drselect
    drselect Posts: 664
    edited November 2013
    Looks like you are set for a long winter.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2013
    Ok something horrible happened during the last phase of my testing, after listening to everything on its own, tube pre with solid state amp, dac hooked direct to the tube amps using the dac pre section. I hooked up the tube pre and switched the tube mono's after a long cool down period and heard this aweful buzzing.

    I switched it all off but wonder why it did that as I know everything works, what could have caused it? Both tube amps had the horrible buzz noise and I imagine thats the sound of a ground loop?

    How can I remedy this?
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