Side surrounds with two rows of seating

mangata572
mangata572 Posts: 52
edited January 2004 in Speakers
I am designing a 24' x 16' 7.1 HT. I am using the AVI How To, but it does not state where would you put di/bi-pole side surround speakers with two rows of seating? Directly inline with the front row, back row, or split the difference?
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited January 2004
    Depending on the size, placement, etc.. personally I would split the difference and go bipole since you are going with a 7.1 set up.

    This would probably provide better accoustic imaging IMO, but you could always play around with it.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/home/technology/bidipole.php?category=6&speaker=163

    Just imagine your two rows are one couch.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited January 2004
    Good question and nice size room. I have three rows of seating and my side surrounds are between the first and second row. In your case I would say even with the first row or between the two. Also depends of the seating in relationship to the room.
    Please tell me your running at least a 65" tv or Front Projection.....
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  • Ceruleance
    Ceruleance Posts: 991
    edited January 2004
    why don't you devise a temporary way to put them in place, stands, or a nail in the wall, listen at different positions and report back to us what you think sounds best
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2004
    IMO, I would dipole betweeen the rows. The effect should still work.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited January 2004
    In your case I would say even with the first row or between the two.
    He does have di-pole speakers and in a 7 channel setup the side speakers a suppose to be di-pole. No matter where they are placed........
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by scottvamp
    He does have di-pole speakers and in a 7 channel setup the side speakers a suppose to be di-pole. No matter where they are placed........

    Yahtzee!!!
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited January 2004
    I agree with ya but good di-pole speakers will have good "effect" in many places but you do not want a large gap between the frontstage or too close to the rears.
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  • mangata572
    mangata572 Posts: 52
    edited January 2004
    Thanks for all your comments. Yes, I do have di-pole speakers for the HT. This HT is currently under construction (no windows, fiberglass exterior grade door, staggered stud walls, icynene insulation, two rows of elevated seating, 106” screen, etc…) and I want to run the speaker wire in the walls having the wire coming out exactly where the speakers will be placed. I am using ‘Audio Video Interiors How To design, build and calibrate your own home theater’ guide. It states (as do most) that the side surround speakers in a 7.1 HT should be exactly across from the main listening area. However the guide did not advise for two rows of seating.

    I agree that the best way would be to temporarily mount them and adjust accordingly, but like I stated, just wanted the wire to come out of the wall precisely where the speaker will be. Sounds like splitting the difference, or closer to inline with the front row would be best.

    Thanks again for your input.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited January 2004
    mangata, sounds like your doing HomeTheater the right way. Read and research and you may be on track or ahead of many.
    That is a large room, 16 feet across - I would go much bigger on the screen. What is your equipment and projector?????
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by scottvamp
    I agree with ya but good di-pole speakers will have good "effect" in many places but you do not want a large gap between the frontstage or too close to the rears.

    That is why I would go bipole. With the size of room you have, IMO, you would have a rather large null zone, whereas bipole would fill the space and you could take better advantage of the rear-side imaging.

    I would still experiment with the setting, but not placement. With 7.1 it's pretty much standard.
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