are kevlar coned speakers better ?

leftwinger57

This is somewhat true, me being no critic at all was sat down and listened to a burned in pair that I think were B&W 802 Diamonds the 15 k$ speakers. They were powered through a set of McIntosh monblocks and all other Mac sources.Yes for that kind of coin on a set of those Rosewood beauties I thought they sounded amazing, what's musical to you might be harsh or muddy to another and again these were spectacular in both clarity sounstage and presense, not to mention the design themselves.They are in the main room at Hi-DEF of Red Bank N.J. w/ absolutely no affilation or I would have a pair.So again there are people who love the brand,others who could do w/o them and others with money to spend would go for them, like art and music itself your ears are subjective to maybe a fault unless something is so obviously wrong they should not be on the assembly line floor to begin with.Is that exrenally mounted tweeter a good,great idea in design I have no idea.I just liked what I heard and I played tunes that I wanted to hear.

audiomagnate

My favorite dynamic mid is the kevlar unit from the original 801. The only thing wrong with that driver is the fact that they are almost impossible to find. It doesn't hurt that they put it in an almost ideal acoustical environment and spent years getting the crossover right.

Kevlar has unique vibration damping characteristics. Early graphite tennis rackets were dramatically improved by the addition of 20% Kevlar to the composite mix to soften the harsh feel of 100 % graphite. Technology has moved on, but those 20% Kevlar rackets from the early 90s are highly coveted by serious players and pros even today. Not to hang on their wall as collector's items, but to play with. My ears and my left arm are both big Kevlar fans.

cnh

If that is the reasoning. Where are all the (carbon) graphene drivers? As well as "proof" that this material would actually make a superior driver?

Graphene is 100 times stronger than steel of the same thickness. It conducts both heat and electricity better than copper, and has outstanding optical and mechanical properties. If it could be produced on an industrial scale, graphene might revolutionize fields such as electronics and even body armor.

cnh

F1nut

"The drivers are also unique. They feature the Magico-developed NanoTech cone material that is based on carbon nano-tube technology designed for helicopter blades."

Too bad they couldn't come up with something better than those rather generic casters.

audiomagnate

cnh wrote: »

If that is the reasoning. Where are all the (carbon) graphene drivers? As well as "proof" that this material would actually make a superior driver?

Graphene is 100 times stronger than steel of the same thickness. It conducts both heat and electricity better than copper, and has outstanding optical and mechanical properties. If it could be produced on an industrial scale, graphene might revolutionize fields such as electronics and even body armor.

cnh

JVC has a new headphone with nanotube drivers. It got such rave reviews I imported a pair from Japan. I prefer my HD-600s.

Face

F1nut wrote: »

Too bad they couldn't come up with something better than those rather generic casters.

Since there is still plastic on the speakers, they may be loaners, which is why they aren't spiked yet.

F1nut

Don't ruin my fun, Mike.

tonyb

Me likes big speakers....Magico .....sign me up, with your wallet. Darn, those are sweeeet !!

zingo

I'll borrow a phrase from the automotive community that also applies to speakers; there is no replacement for displacement.

mhardy6647

zingo wrote: »

I'll borrow a phrase from the automotive community that also applies to speakers; there is no replacement for displacement.

Yup...



IMG_0126 by mhardy6647, on Flickr

...and

Dilution is the solution to pollution

WLDock

I know this has been discussed years ago, but any listened to wood cone speakers?

JVC wood cone - (I wanted to listen to these but forgot about them.)
http://www.jvc.eu/woodcone/

MW Audio products
http://w.mawebcenters.com/midwestspeaker/ecommerce/home-audio/finished-speakers/mw-audio-w6-78-2-way-bookshelf-speaker.html
This kit looks interesting...with the familiar Peerless tweeter:
http://w.mawebcenters.com/midwestspeaker/ecommerce/mw-audio-dw6-2-way-dual-woofer-kit.html


Voxativ
http://www.voxativ.com/en/fullrange-drivers/ac-4x/

Misco Speaker
http://www.miscospeakers.com/speakers/LC62W-8B

leftwinger57

At 750 lbs a piece w/ slabs of solid aluminum at $165,000 and the size of a Smart Car I would consider these to be high end.You think?How deep are those things, and what kind of room would they work in,the're bigger than some show rooms I've been in.

cnh

If speakers are going to be that big, that expensive and that heavy, why not choose the musical genre you most listen to and the VENUE in which it occurs and then just design your room and equipment to be exact copies of what is used to produce the LIVE music.

In the case of "rock" you'd have a HUGE wall of sound with so many driver boxes and amps your head would spin. Would dwarf the High End speakers above? lol

But don't forget to "blow" out your back wall so that the sound does not reverberate endlessly in your far TOO SMALL room?

cnh

Face

F1nut wrote: »

Don't ruin my fun, Mike.

Sorry.