SL3000 Repair?

markamerica
markamerica Posts: 203
edited January 2014 in Vintage Speakers
I've surfed through a lot of old threads here looking for information. I reported last weekend having picked up a pair of 1.2TLs at a price I couldn't refuse despite the drive. I found that one tweeter was bad, and I found a replacement on Ebay and installed it and while test-driving it in its new home, another went bad. For this reason, I'll be looking into the Polk replacements when they become available (in October, right?) I figure if one was bad, and another went, there may be more casualties.

This lead me to do some research on repairing these. I decided to open one up. As my research indicated would be likely, the tiny hair-sized lead on one side had become detached. I figure age and 650 miles of bad road home took its toll. That also probably means the rest are not too long for operative condition either. I-10 through Louisiana is pretty washboard-ish, particularly in an F350. Nevertheless, the damage is done, so now I'm in rehab mode. Since the new tweeters aren't available right now, I'm going to need to make do.

F1Nut mentioned that the ferro fluid was likely sludge. True. Nevertheless, I soldiered on, staying up far too late last night and into the wee hours of the morning with an illuminated magnifier, and improvising some conductive adhesive. (It's actually amazing that I managed this at all. While my vision at a distance is great, I am finding now in my late 40's that myopia is beginning to set in, much to my annoyance, so that the magnifying glass is necessary. I digress...)

I succeeded in re-attaching the tiny lead. It reads a bit off-spec, however. All of the others in the cabinet range from 5.9ohms to 6.1ohms. This one now pegs the meter at 6.2ohms. I let it set overnight(okay, from 4am-9am this morning) held together by a small hemostat, and when I woke up, I immediately went to remove the hemostat and worried that the adhesive would cause the tool to stick to the wire, only to detach it again upon removal, but this did not happen. I re-checked my resistance and reassembled. Still at 6.2ohms. I re-installed the tweeter. I tested the speaker. Amazingly, it works, for now...

I actually dug around here until I found a thread about changing/replacing ferro fluid, that included some specs from a polk engineer. F1Nut, you seemed to be much-involved in that thread though it was a decade ago. Did you ever have any success?

I guess this is what a fella does when he can't get replacements, but still wants to tinker and hear the speakers?

Any thoughts?
SDA SRS, SDA SRS1.2TL, SDA-1C,SDA 2B, Soundcraftsmen Amplification (A5002s, MA5002s, MA5002As)
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited September 2013
    I have SL 3000's I can sell you, up to 6. PM me if interested.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • markamerica
    markamerica Posts: 203
    edited September 2013
    I tried to PM you, but it says your inbox is too full. Yes, btw, I am interested.

    I will PM you as soon as your inbox will allow.

    Thanks!

    Mark
    SDA SRS, SDA SRS1.2TL, SDA-1C,SDA 2B, Soundcraftsmen Amplification (A5002s, MA5002s, MA5002As)
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited September 2013
    I actually dug around here until I found a thread about changing/replacing ferro fluid, that included some specs from a polk engineer. F1Nut, you seemed to be much-involved in that thread though it was a decade ago. Did you ever have any success?

    I don't think I ever pursued it because I bought a set of eight NOS SL3000's, which I ended up selling after the RD0198-1's came out.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • markamerica
    markamerica Posts: 203
    edited September 2013
    Thanks F1Nut, I read a lot of jokes about "oil changes" and so on, and there was one poster quite serious about it, or so it seemed. In doing research on the matter, I happened upon this: http://ferrofluid.ferrotec.com/ferrofluid-home/

    I'm actually pursuing this a little bit mostly out of curiosity. In the end, I suspect I will end up with the RDO-198-1s, but a fella has to do what a fella has to do.

    Mark
    SDA SRS, SDA SRS1.2TL, SDA-1C,SDA 2B, Soundcraftsmen Amplification (A5002s, MA5002s, MA5002As)
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited September 2013
    I tried to PM you, but it says your inbox is too full. Yes, btw, I am interested.

    I will PM you as soon as your inbox will allow.

    Thanks!

    Mark

    Inbox cleaned out.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • markamerica
    markamerica Posts: 203
    edited September 2013
    drumminman wrote: »
    Inbox cleaned out.

    Thanks DrumminMan,

    Now I've gone and started filling it again...:cry:
    SDA SRS, SDA SRS1.2TL, SDA-1C,SDA 2B, Soundcraftsmen Amplification (A5002s, MA5002s, MA5002As)
  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited January 2014
    do you have any more 3000's left ?
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center
    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
    Black Laquer 1.2tl's w/ upgraded x-overs and Tweets BI-Amped with 2 Carver tfm-35's Knukonceptz 10ga cables
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited January 2014
    Sorry, no. I sold all I had to markamerica.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2014
    So Polk still doesn't have any 198's?

    do you have any more 3000's left ?
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited January 2014
    Don't know - call them. Seems like I remember a few folks getting RD somethings from Polk here lately.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2014
    Yea 198's are much better I did two a month till all 6 were done. If they have them I'm going to get a spare, JIC.
    drumminman wrote: »
    Polk probably has RD-0198's. The SL3000's, I doubt it since the 198's replaced them and are a better tweeter.
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1