Spent the weekend in Indy...

ZLTFUL
ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
edited August 2013 in The Clubhouse
...for MotoGP.
My seats sucked once again.

Some highlights:
And I was forced to endure lunch with Jeremy Burgess (Valentino Rossi's crew chief) on Saturday.
Got into an argument with Scott Russell over some pulled pork on Friday as to whether or not Marquez could surpass Rossi's accomplishments.
Got the thumbs up from Larry Pegram.
Took secret pictures of Maverick's butt.
Chatted with Miguel Oliveira in my horribly broken Spanish.
Almost stole Iannone's boots.
Sat 2 rows in front of Ben Spies during MotoGP qualifying.
Hung out with Shane Turpin, Shelina Moreda and Eric Bostrom in the Brammo trailer for a bit after the e-bike qualifying on Saturday.
Spoke at length with Jeremy McWilliams on the topic of being older and still racing.
Got tear-offs from Lorenzo, Rossi, Pedrosa, Edwards, Vinales, Redding and Pol.

Just some teasers as I am still sorting through the over 7000 pictures I took.

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"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,424
    edited August 2013
    7000 pictures!!!! how did you ever have time to do all that other stuff ???:biggrin:
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited August 2013
    I bet the engine noise was nice!
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited August 2013
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    7000 pictures!!!! how did you ever have time to do all that other stuff ???:biggrin:

    LOL, he made his wife take all the pics while he drank beer and watched the race and did all that stuff....

    Hello! :wink:

    That or he had google glasses :biggrin:...
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    edited August 2013
    I have a nice DSLR with an incredibly fast continous shoot mode. Hehe.
    Depending on the vantage point too, I had to snap about 15 shots to get 3 good ones.
    The official photogs can bull their way into the corner working stations while I am usually relegated to vantage points most normal mortals have access to. I am just good at finding holes to shoot through. Heh.
    My wife took 17 photos to give you a comparison. Hehe.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited August 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    I have a nice DSLR with an incredibly fast continous shoot mode. Hehe.

    You just have all the good stuff dont ya..... :wink:
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,424
    edited August 2013
    VERY lucky he doesn't use film ..... That super fast burn'em up mode would fly through 36 shots FAST....
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    edited August 2013
    When I used to shoot film, I usually kept about 20 or 30 rolls on me at motorcycle races. Hehe.

    My biggest problem is I HATE post processed pictures. If my pictures can't stand on their own without editing (not including cropping or resizing) then they get deleted.

    I have a huge array of filters and hoods I use depending on where and what I am shooting, the weather, the reflections, etc.
    But everything I shot this year was on kit lenses. I didn't have room to bring the big dog with me on the bike.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,756
    edited August 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    My biggest problem is I HATE post processed pictures. If my pictures can't stand on their own without editing (not including cropping or resizing) then they get deleted.

    Hmm. Should you have said "I had post-processing my photos" instead?

    The way you said it makes it sound like post processing photos is some awful thing that ruins photos, when in fact, post-processing is a worthwhile step (and even necessary in some instances) It always has been, for both film and digital photography. Yes, back in the day when you sent film off the the lab, they were in fact taking liberties to make your photos look their best (ie: post processing). They adjusted white balance, exposure, etc., to make your photos look good.

    I will say without reserve that virtually every photo that comes out of a digital camera CAN look better with some amount of post processing. Most serious photographers also know that their shots can look significantly better by shooting in RAW mode (which of course requires post processing). You get at least two stops of extra dynamic range, more accurate white balance, lower noise, sharper details, etc.

    If your photos look worse after post processing, then you are doing something wrong.
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    edited August 2013
    Everything I shot was in RAW. I convert copies to JPG for posting on forums/Facebook as most forum limits are significantly lower than the average 12-18mb RAW high def shot. Not to mention they don't have the capabilities to display those photos as forum attachments.

    And while you argue FOR post processing, I will argue that there is a reason that your nice, high end DSLR has all those settings that most photogs don't bother touching. It can get overwhelming trying to set up your camera to get to a point where post processing is moot. White balance? Yeah...there's a reason that setting is adjustable on DSLRs. Exposure? If you are shooting with the wrong exposure, then yeah...you would have to correct that wouldn't you? Lower noise? Maybe on some cheaper "mainstream DSLRs but most higher end models tend to have settings that can be adjusted on the fly.

    You also seem to think that I am completely anti-post processing. There is a point where it becomes impossible to constantly adjust your settings and then you hop into auto-mode and have to take what you can get.
    In that case, there is some touch up done after the fact but I would prefer a shot that comes out right the first time than having to rely on fixing the shot after the fact.

    I get the distinct impression that you are trying to call me out on something...
    I am pretty sure that I know what I am doing when it comes to shooting motorsports as I regularly sell shots to Roadracing World, Cycle World, Sportbike Magazine and several online publications.

    If you aren't, then I apologize for getting defensive. I just take serious pride in my ability to get my shot from card to publication faster than most other "professional" photogs.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,756
    edited August 2013
    Didn't mean to rub your pride the wrong way nor was I trying to call you out, but you didn't offer much detail in your post where you said you "HATE post processed photos."

    It made it sound like you had something against the look of photos that have been processed by Lightroom, et al. I agree that you should try to get the photo 'right' in the first place and I don't like overly manipulated images, but I would basically say that since you are shooting in RAW, you are post processing all of your photos. Whether or not you make any changes during the RAW>JPEG conversion, you are getting a better photo than what would be saved as a JPEG by the camera.

    These days, I usually don't spend much time post-processing, but I do change color space to sRGB and apply sharpening after I re-size for web posting.

    When I first started out with Photoshop about 12 years ago, I would spend hours post processing photos. I think I spent a week editing my Honeymoon photos. I think most of that was because the photos that came out of the cameras back then needed more work to look good. Not as much of an issue these days thankfully.

    Anyway, Happy Shooting!
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    edited August 2013
    billbillw wrote: »
    Didn't mean to rub your pride the wrong way nor was I trying to call you out, but you didn't offer much detail in your post where you said you "HATE post processed photos."

    It made it sound like you had something against the look of photos that have been processed by Lightroom, et al. I agree that you should try to get the photo 'right' in the first place and I don't like overly manipulated images, but I would basically say that since you are shooting in RAW, you are post processing all of your photos. Whether or not you make any changes during the RAW>JPEG conversion, you are getting a better photo than what would be saved as a JPEG by the camera.

    These days, I usually don't spend much time post-processing, but I do change color space to sRGB and apply sharpening after I re-size for web posting.

    When I first started out with Photoshop about 12 years ago, I would spend hours post processing photos. I think I spent a week editing my Honeymoon photos. I think most of that was because the photos that came out of the cameras back then needed more work to look good. Not as much of an issue these days thankfully.

    Anyway, Happy Shooting!

    No harm no foul. I guess I should have elaborated. I hate it when someone spends more time editing their pictures than they do actually shooting them. To me, I would rather shoot 50 shots to gt a handful of perfect shots that only need to be cropped and dropped so to speak.

    We are definitely on the same page.
    When I shot film, I mostly did B&W so I could avoid the pitfalls of color film photography at the time.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,756
    edited August 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    When I shot film, I mostly did B&W so I could avoid the pitfalls of color film photography at the time.

    I made things difficult by shooting slide film and then spending stupid amounts of time scanning them with a slide scanner that cost way too much money and didn't do a very good job. Then I'd spend too much time trying to make the digital image look somewhere close to as good as the actual slide. Never quite succeeded there. After my honeymoon, I sold all my film gear and went 100% digital. I still haven't worked up to a set of gear that matched the EOS film setup I had though.
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