Re-Capping Pioneer Turntable

thetawave2
thetawave2 Posts: 268
edited August 2013 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
I've been gradually working on restoring my mom's old Pioneer PL-A45D turntable. So far I've cleaned and re-lubricated the platter bearing, replaced the belt, and replaced the stylus. Now, I think it's time to replace the capacitors. There's quite a bit of wow/flutter, and since the belt is new I figure it's probably due to the age of the capacitors. I took a look inside and just wanted to make sure I was getting the right value before ordering replacements. Printed on the PCB is "0.1 MFD," which I imagine is a value for each capacitor separately, equivalent to 100uF. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this!
I would also like some suggestions on what to buy for replacements. Thanks in advance for the help!




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My Stereo: Tannoy D100s, Yaqin MC-100B, VPI Traveler, Dynavector 10x5 MC Phono Cartridge, heavily modified Yaqin MS-22B phono preamp, TEAC EQA-20 equalizer, Belkin PureAV PF30 Power Conditioner, Canare 4s11 speaker cables, Custom dust cover from DigitalDeckCovers
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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,430
    edited August 2013
    I took a peek at the Pioneer PL-A45 service manual over at vinylengine.com and it specs two 0.1uF in those positions. I assume it's the same for the Pioneer PL-A45D?

    The user manual suggests cleaning the belt/pulleys with alcohol to cure wow/flutter issues, if you haven't given that a go.
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,430
    edited August 2013
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    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,430
    edited August 2013
    Here's the whole manual for the PL-A45D. Appears the same as above WRT your caps.

    http://elektrotanya.com/pioneer_pl-a45d_sm.pdf/download.html
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
  • thetawave2
    thetawave2 Posts: 268
    edited August 2013
    Thanks for clearing that up for me, agfrost! These unit prefixes still confuse me sometimes haha

    I'm doing some shopping. Do these look suitable, I wonder? http://www.amplifiedparts.com/products/C-P-600V Or should I just run down to my local Rat Shack?
    My Stereo: Tannoy D100s, Yaqin MC-100B, VPI Traveler, Dynavector 10x5 MC Phono Cartridge, heavily modified Yaqin MS-22B phono preamp, TEAC EQA-20 equalizer, Belkin PureAV PF30 Power Conditioner, Canare 4s11 speaker cables, Custom dust cover from DigitalDeckCovers
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited August 2013
    In all likelihood those are functioning as "snubber" capacitors, preventing any transient spikes when the AC is switched on/off or a speed change is made. I don't believe they could contribute to any wow and flutter. You should check the main platter's lubrication, make sure the motor pulley is clean and that the table is fairly level.
  • thetawave2
    thetawave2 Posts: 268
    edited August 2013
    In all likelihood those are functioning as "snubber" capacitors, preventing any transient spikes when the AC is switched on/off or a speed change is made. I don't believe they could contribute to any wow and flutter. You should check the main platter's lubrication, make sure the motor pulley is clean and that the table is fairly level.

    I cleaned and lubricated the platter bearing and leveled the thing best I could. I'll check the motor pulley itself... hadn't thought of that! But won't there be some capacitors that will affect the motor speed? Maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.
    My Stereo: Tannoy D100s, Yaqin MC-100B, VPI Traveler, Dynavector 10x5 MC Phono Cartridge, heavily modified Yaqin MS-22B phono preamp, TEAC EQA-20 equalizer, Belkin PureAV PF30 Power Conditioner, Canare 4s11 speaker cables, Custom dust cover from DigitalDeckCovers
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited August 2013
    The motor is a 4 pole synchronous type that locks onto the line frequency there's really no operating circuitry. The motor could be the problem, sometimes carbon builds up on the internal parts and causes speed stability problems. It could also need lubrication, there are several youtube videos that show how to disassemble and clean/lubricate small electrical motors.
  • thetawave2
    thetawave2 Posts: 268
    edited August 2013
    Thanks for the help. I didn't realize the electronics would be so simple! I'll take a look at disassembling the motor and making sure it's nice and clean.
    My Stereo: Tannoy D100s, Yaqin MC-100B, VPI Traveler, Dynavector 10x5 MC Phono Cartridge, heavily modified Yaqin MS-22B phono preamp, TEAC EQA-20 equalizer, Belkin PureAV PF30 Power Conditioner, Canare 4s11 speaker cables, Custom dust cover from DigitalDeckCovers