new emotiva xpa-2 gen 2 amp

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    Your attack on my character shows your lack of it.

    Nobody cares? Hmmm...couldn't be why they are discontinuing the brand, could it?

    BTW, you'll get much better bass out of your AR9's by removing the granite slabs and spiking the speakers directly to the floor.
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  • SHOKDU
    SHOKDU Posts: 47
    edited August 2013
    An eye for an eye, buddy. I'm not quite a "turn the other cheek" kind of guy.

    I don't really care why they are discontinuing the brand. All I care is that they keep producing one heck of a product, while maintaining fantastic customer relations and support.

    That may be true if I had a concrete floor, but my main living room floor is wooden. If I directly couple the speakers to wood via spikes, they lose the "isolation" factor and all that bass just goes to shake my floorboards instead. The granite acts as a plinth, so that vibration is not transmitted. As an extra precautionary measure, I added spikes to the AR9's just to see how the combination of spikes and a plinth would work, the results were pretty impressive, but I believe that is due to the fact that the uneven bottom of the speaker was "rocking" on the plinth before the spikes, and the spikes helped to stabilize the speakers.
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    SHOKDU wrote: »
    An eye for an eye, buddy. I'm not quite a "turn the other cheek" kind of guy.

    I don't really care why they are discontinuing the brand. All I care is that they keep producing one heck of a product, while maintaining fantastic customer relations and support.

    I wonder if certain company's have employees join forums to defend the product
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    The difference here, sport, is that I didn't attack your character, which is always an act of desperation.

    You clearly do not understand how speaker spikes work.
    All I care is that they keep producing one heck of a product, while maintaining fantastic customer relations and support.

    Must be why you had to send those Airmotiv 6's back twice for repair.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited August 2013
    Dang...Brock was right along about this troll.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited August 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    ... everything in the audio world has had an issue or 2, for me the latest to surface is Bluefoxes issues for that MONEY it should never happen,

    How did I get dragged into this? Everything breaks in electronics. Hopefully it will break under warranty if it is going to happen. How many satellites have been lost due to electronic failures, and they cost more than my power conditioner.
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  • SHOKDU
    SHOKDU Posts: 47
    edited August 2013
    I wonder if certain company's have employees join forums to defend the product
    I'm sure they can, but google search my username if you must. I have no affiliation with anybody. I'm just a dude who lives in Alaska who loves cars, audio gear, guns, photography, knives, and hunting.
    F1nut wrote: »
    The difference here, sport, is that I didn't attack your character, which is always an act of desperation.

    You clearly do not understand how speaker spikes work.



    Must be why you had to send those Airmotiv 6's back twice for repair.
    It's easy for me to say that you dont understand how speaker spikes work as well. Spikes are for vibration isolation and to minimize contact area, as well as provide level footing for the speaker. If you have some alternate theory, I'd love to hear it.
    halo71 wrote: »
    Dang...Brock was right along about this troll.
    Oh how the times have changed, from the boy who cried "wolf" to the internet mobs crying "troll".
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    Shokdu your now arguing in two threads regarding emo stuff, give it a rest or pass me the salt for the free popcorn your handing out :cheesygrin:
  • SHOKDU
    SHOKDU Posts: 47
    edited August 2013
    Oh, and the only reason that the Airmotiv6's went back to Emotiva twice was because I had bought remanufactured speakers to begin with during the warehouse sale. The failure was most likely due to a long, bumpy ride to Alaska. The first time was because one of the drivers had completely ripped itself from the enclosure, and the second time was because the box got dropped hard enough that a board inside the speaker cracked. Both fault of FedEx handlers. Emotiva graciously fixed the issue both times, and I now have fantastic speakers in my office that have lasted for me and only cost me $300.
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited August 2013
    SHOKDU wrote: »
    Oh how the times have changed, from the boy who cried "wolf" to the internet mobs crying "troll".

    ermmmm.....huh? never mind.....:rolleyes:
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  • SHOKDU
    SHOKDU Posts: 47
    edited August 2013
    I did not start these Emo bashing and defending threads! Your boys here were liable for the eruptions. Somebody tries to disparage a product I own, and take pride in...sure I'm going to defend my investment. The product bashing is quite insulting for the people who own the product. There are much more tactful ways of leading people to better equipment, if that's the goal of things.
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,054
    edited August 2013
    Did I read somewhere in this thread that EMO is discounting their amps.....if so, I am be interested in a new HT amp:smile:
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    Emo amps are infamously known to be bright, the same way the Polk RTi A series speakers are. Those are facts and is in no way bashing. The fact that you can't handle the truth is all on you.
    If I directly couple the speakers to wood via spikes, they lose the "isolation" factor and all that bass just goes to shake my floorboards instead.
    Spikes are for vibration isolation and to minimize contact area

    So, which one is it?
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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    So, I'm reading a thread on another audio forum where the OP has built some speakers that are a bit rolled off at the top end and he's looking for a bright amp. Emo amps got recommended the most....go figure, LOL

    Was waiting for this to begin.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    SHOKDU wrote: »
    Oh, and the only reason that the Airmotiv6's went back to Emotiva twice was because I had bought remanufactured speakers to begin with during the warehouse sale. The failure was most likely due to a long, bumpy ride to Alaska. The first time was because one of the drivers had completely ripped itself from the enclosure, and the second time was because the box got dropped hard enough that a board inside the speaker cracked. Both fault of FedEx handlers. Emotiva graciously fixed the issue both times, and I now have fantastic speakers in my office that have lasted for me and only cost me $300.

    Your post here would certainly indicate the problem was not shipping related.
    Post by shokdu on May 23, 2013 at 11:55pm
    I wanted another pair of Airmotiv 6's, but the last set I bought during the last whse sale was $240 cheaper than I was quoted this time around. Not even worth buying the remans at the quoted price if you ask me, better to buy new as my last pair of remans had to go back to Emo twice due to failure.
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    edited August 2013
    I've always liked teledyne era Acoustic Research own a couple pair myself I wish I had the AR9's which I'am positive will kick the snot out of the Motiva6's. be proud of those and 3.1tl's you own
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  • SHOKDU
    SHOKDU Posts: 47
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Your post here would certainly indicate the problem was not shipping related.
    I only posted that because I was upset at Emotiva for raising the price on remans as I wanted to buy another set. I was hoping to strike a bit of a soft spot with Emotiva and get them to lower the price again so I could buy a second set for the same price as what I bought the first for. It didnt work, I still only have one set. :(

    Why don't you give up trying to crucify me already?

    Even IF my speakers had to go back due to actual mechanical failure of some sort, how is it relevant to this thread? Are you trying to prove that Emotiva customer service is fantastic, and that they have an incredible warranty (5 years, no questions asked), even on thier remanufactured gear as well (5 years)?

    If so, way to go! You're amazing at promoting Emotiva. Positive, or negative promotion is still promotion. You should think about becoming part of the emotiva team. They have a couple career positions available; http://emotiva.com/contact/careers
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    Sure, whatever you say.

    Still waiting on which of your comments about spikes is the right one.
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  • SHOKDU
    SHOKDU Posts: 47
    edited August 2013
    gudnoyez wrote: »
    I've always liked teledyne era Acoustic Research own a couple pair myself I wish I had the AR9's which I'am positive will kick the snot out of the Motiva6's. be proud of those and 3.1tl's you own

    The AR9's are quite amazing, and yes, they beat almost everything else I've ever owned. The only reason I say "almost" is because I have a slight fuzz sound out of the tweeters, UMR's, and the LMR's. The fuzz has been there with the numerous amps, pre-amps, and sources I have tried. I know where it is coming from, and that is the attenuator network. The only network that I left untouched when I refurbished those speakers. Someday I will either defeat the attenuator network, or replace all the switches and resistors. For now, the slight fuzz is so minimal, and non-noticable, they are at the bottom of my priority list. Re-capping, re-sealing, upgrading binding posts, re-covering, and re-veneering the 3.1TL's is near the top of my list. :)
  • SHOKDU
    SHOKDU Posts: 47
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Sure, whatever you say.

    Still waiting on which of your comments about spikes is the right one.
    Not gonna give you the satsifaction, champ.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    LOL......yeah got ya, chump.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    SHOKDU wrote: »
    I did not start these Emo bashing and defending threads! Your boys here were liable for the eruptions. Somebody tries to disparage a product I own, and take pride in...sure I'm going to defend my investment. The product bashing is quite insulting for the people who own the product. There are much more tactful ways of leading people to better equipment, if that's the goal of things.

    So, I guess your bashing standards don't apply when you're talking about Carver Amazing speakers.
    11-30-2012, 06:22 PM
    SHOKDU

    I think they are junk and should be sent to a new home. The junkyard prefferably. Maybe, just maybe...take the drivers out and set them up as "pins", then use the cabinets as "bumpers", get out your bowling ball, and go speaker bowling! Then haul to the junkyard after you have thorough beat the dog **** out of them with your big heavy balls. Bowling balls that is.
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  • SHOKDU
    SHOKDU Posts: 47
    edited August 2013
    If you where half the detective you think you are, you'd realize that the dude who owns the Carver Amazings is user Emotiva!, now, go back to my introduction thread and see that Emotiva! is the first guy who posted under me. He is a buddy, and I was being extremely sarcastic about the speaker bowling. He was sitting next to me as I typed it, laughing pretty dang hard.

    Get a life, please. You're really interrupting mine. Ignore, from here on out.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    My, you've got an explanation for everything, don't ya.

    With all this experience in audio it's surprising that you don't know the proper function of speaker spikes. Just saying.....
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited August 2013
    Now Mike, you're just going to confuse our new friend even more than he already is. :cheesygrin:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited August 2013
    SHOKDU wrote: »
    . There are much more tactful ways of leading people to better equipment, if that's the goal of things.

    If that's the goal.....which obviously isn't yours.

    I would also suggest "tactful ways" went out the window when you proclaimed Emo as a better product than Krell, Levinson, and Macintosh. Maybe you should explain to us your thoughts on what "better equipment" than emo is then.

    I advised you before to know your audience. Your talking to some seasoned audiophiles here and not doing yourself any favors. B.S. doesn't fly around here as maybe it does on other forums....just saying. Maybe, since you already turned a few knobs the wrong way, hit the reset button and start over. Just a suggestion is all.
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  • ratster
    ratster Posts: 324
    edited August 2013
    I believe he has passed the point of reset.
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited August 2013
    Keiko wrote: »
    LOL! OMG, Mike, you're going to make me bust a stitch! Great pics bro!:biggrin:
  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Why didn't you link the entire thread, afraid folks would see where Emo tried to dupe folks by rebadging their amps and doubling the price. Yeah, great company there....went over like a lead balloon.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?151495-need-cheap-amps

    Then there was the Carver Amp that was a re-badged Emotiva, or it was the other way around.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    edited August 2013
    Then there was the Carver Amp that was a re-badged Emotiva, or it was the other way around.

    That would have been a Phoenix Gold amp with the Carver name placed on it illegally, that was built by a company named Homni in China. Homni changed their name to Jade Designs, rebadged that Phoenix Gold amp the MPS-1, and Emotiva was born.

    Bottom line is that the audio industry must have been born in the backwoods hills of Kentucky with all the inbreeding going on. It's hard to keep up with who's who and what's what these days.
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