As promised or bone to pick w/ you about SDAs

leftwinger57
leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
edited August 2013 in Speakers
So I got my gov't dole and in fact did apply a first coat of a satin clear poly finish .No pictures you know what it looks like already and not much has changed. So they will get another coat or 2 once dried I'm not sure if I should light sand in between I really don't have the patience for this any more.Now ,some of you dudes ragged on me for using Pledge on the front motor boards and rears not the good stuff or tops.So what are these things made of MDF?In my world MDF is a wood product which = cheap furniture=a dash of Pledge.It's not acetone, turpentine,or bezine, it's Pledge.What is going to happen? Are mushrooms going to sprout out of these things.Listen, as they they say in DA Bronx it's my football so leave it there.
2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,186
    edited August 2013
    What are "front motor boards"?
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
    SDA 2B TL's
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited August 2013
    I thought that what the fronts are called that house all the drivers and passives. That's what they call them over on the Klipsch site sounded good at the time.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited August 2013
    leftwinger57 wrote: »
    I thought that what the fronts are called that house all the drivers and passives. That's what they call them over on the Klipsch site sounded good at the time.

    Never heard that before. Kinda makes sense, I guess.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,667
    edited August 2013
    one word ...silicone
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited August 2013
    Hopefully you will a nice sheen on the topps and sides and underlip of my 2 beauts. So far 2 coats w/ no sanding in between.Jeese was Absolutely right that they needed a protectorant from the tops drying out and I knew this but just had to wait a bit .I w/o a doubt like the new sheen and maybe invest in another coat or 2.Enjoy.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
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  • jimbo1421
    jimbo1421 Posts: 772
    edited August 2013
    The silicone in Pledge causes a contaminant problem called "fisheye" if it gets into newly applied finishes. It is best to keep it out of the house altogether if you ever intend to refinish anything.

    More info: http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=fisheye+finish+problem&oq=fisheye+finish+problem&gs_l=serp.3...6225.19460.0.20236.23.21.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.23.psy-ab..23.0.0.Mc0BMImLfv8

    Jim
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited August 2013
    That's very informative but for the 19th time I did not touch any part of anything I refinished. I just wiped the fronts and backs w/o touching any of the speakers .surrounds or screws .I have an absolutely perfect finish of black paint or whatever they originally used .No streakes,no fish eye or any other detrement these wonderful speakers.That's why I again took shoots of the fronts to prove the point that nothing happened. No one is winning this one but me.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited August 2013
    Lew,

    As I stated in your other thread, silicone migrates (spreads), which means it could possibly end up contaminating your end caps, electrical connections, etc. even though you only applied it to the front and back. As jimbo1421 stated, best to keep it out of your house. Other problems with silicone on furniture is it smears when touched and acts like a magnet for dust, dirt and grime.

    The front bezel on your SDA's is vinyl covered particle board. Only the TL models have MDF bezels, which are also vinyl covered. The back should be vinyl covered too, but IIRC, early SDA backs where simply painted.

    I'm not ragging on you, just trying to help.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited August 2013
    Jesse, By now you must know that I respect what you say w/ all your advice. You were absolutely right on the point that they needed a finish .Ok again I will relent I will wipe them down maybe after all is dry and not apply anything.I really do not remove the grill covers all that often so there really is not an urgent need to clean them like dressers and armoirs.You got admit that I'm stubbburn mule of a dude and if there is an inkling of me being right until proven wrong I go w/ me.Thanks again Pledge is OUT!!!.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited August 2013
    It's all good Lew, always was.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • HTguru1982
    HTguru1982 Posts: 1,066
    edited August 2013
    What about Murphy's Oil Soap? Safe to use? Or best to avoid?
    Display: Sony 42" LCD
    Sources: Harman Kardon DVD-27,
    Panasonic DMP-BDT110 blu ray player
    AVR: Sony STR-DA2400ES
    Amps: Sonance Sonamp 260(fronts),
    Kenwood KM-894(surrounds)
    Fronts: NHT 2.5
    Center: NHT VS-1.2A
    Surrounds: NHT Super One
    Subwoofer: SVS PB10-ISD
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited August 2013
    What about Murphy's Oil Soap? Safe to use? Or best to avoid?

    Good question.

    Would you consider applying vegetable oil to your furniture, floors or speakers? Of course not.

    Well, Murphy's Oil Soap is a vegetable oil and potassium hydroxide (think lye) based product. That alone should be enough to stop anyone from using it, but in case it isn't, the fact that using it involves a lot of water should. Water will find any scratch, crack, etc. in the finish, get under it and cause delamination.

    My suggestion, throw it out with the garbage.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • HTguru1982
    HTguru1982 Posts: 1,066
    edited August 2013
    Ah, you guys are tough on this stuff lol. Out it goes...
    Display: Sony 42" LCD
    Sources: Harman Kardon DVD-27,
    Panasonic DMP-BDT110 blu ray player
    AVR: Sony STR-DA2400ES
    Amps: Sonance Sonamp 260(fronts),
    Kenwood KM-894(surrounds)
    Fronts: NHT 2.5
    Center: NHT VS-1.2A
    Surrounds: NHT Super One
    Subwoofer: SVS PB10-ISD
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited August 2013
    You must go w/ the pros.I have bowed my head so many times already I can't straighten it out any more ..DO NOT TAKE WOOKWORKING ADVICE FROM ME. Ask those other guys.....lololoololol
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2013
    The guy who did my wood floors gave me the exact same advice as Jesse. Take the Murphy's Oil Soap and throw it in the garbage. He told me that if he needs to do work on the finish of floors where Murphy's was applied, there is no choice but to sand down to bare wood and start over, whereas otherwise you can often just do a light screening and apply another coat of poly. He told me 17 years ago that the best way to clean a wood finish is 1/3 white vinegar a d 2/3 water. 17 years later, the floors still look great.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,002
    edited August 2013
    Speaking of speaker cabinets, what's the best for weekly cleaning that won't harm the finish ? Jesse, that's aimed at you bro.
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

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    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited August 2013
    A slightly damp soft cloth to pick up the dust and if there's any moisture left follow up with a dry soft cloth. Endust applied to a soft cloth also works.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited August 2013
    I think thia is where it ends on the wookworking side of things. 3 coats of Minwax clear satin poly.Let dry in between coats and I really like the results. I know cables will be on the agaenda as soon as some mad $ comes in.I threw one pix of stain before any treatment was done. They look and feel great Any descrephincy you might notic is just the light of the sun coming in .They are the same colors
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
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