MY current setup .. trying to go 7.1 need the last 2 speakers

tpeter
tpeter Posts: 65
edited August 2013 in Speakers
So my setup is old but good. I have a old B&k AVR507 THX Ultra 2 receiver 7.1 that powers my Lsi15s my Lsi center and my LsiFX surround 4ohm speakers nice, I also use a SVS subwoofer powered by a separate amp.

Well im turning my 17x18 garage into a fully furnished room for my 3 young boys but decided to put my home theater out there as well. So before Lowes lays down the new carpet I wanted to place speaker wire underneath for my surrounds. I will put the LsiFX on the side of the listening position but need a set of rear speakers behind our heads to complete the 7.1.

I have been out of the loop so long and have no idea which speakers would work best for this..

I would like to stick with polk but I see most of their speakers are all 8ohm now from my current 4. Does this make a difference?

Can someone recommend a good set of rears to complete this? I would go with whatever is new from polk at this time.


ALso in the near future I would like to upgrade my receiver to something like the Onkyo 929 that is out soon. Would like the added HDMI inputs and blutooth and iphone ipod connectivity, audessy XT et. MY BK is great just lacking new features
Polk LSi 15
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP.
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  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    edited July 2013
    Thanks for the link, those would probably work well with my setup!
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited July 2013
    Setup will sound great with those...however do not run cabling under carpets...will break down the cable and the carpet sooner or later.
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    edited July 2013
    Crap , what would you recommend , this is on my garage so there is no crawl space.. Would I get super long cables and run along the border of the walls all the way to the back?
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited July 2013
    I guess if distance is a prob run it behind the molding along the baseboard.
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    edited July 2013
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    I guess if distance is a prob run it behind the molding along the baseboard.

    Yeah ill figure out something,

    One question, it may be hard to keep the rears "lsi7s" far enough apart based on where my kids bunk bed will be.

    Question 1, could I use a rear center channel and go 6.1 with a 7.1 receiver? Or what is the shortest distance I can keep the 2 Lsi7s apart? Would I be able to put them both like inches apart in the middle of the room about 3-4 feet behind the couch?

    Or I could put them in the corners of the back wall on speaker stands and angle them to the listener position on the couch.. The length of the back wall is 19 feet so they would be completely apart.

    Which of the 3 options would you choose?
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • drummer86
    drummer86 Posts: 441
    edited July 2013
    What is the ceiling like? May be easier to go up there. Shortest distance is best. Lsi7s should be fine. Do not be ashamed about the age of your gear when it's great stuff!
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited July 2013
    Trying to picture your layout...my rears flank the center listening position about a foot out from the wall...center position is about fifteen to twenty feet from the screen
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    edited July 2013
    drummer86 wrote: »
    What is the ceiling like? May be easier to go up there. Shortest distance is best. Lsi7s should be fine. Do not be ashamed about the age of your gear when it's great stuff!

    I can ask the guy doing my garage about the ceiling but not sure about that one.
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    edited July 2013
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    Trying to picture your layout...my rears flank the center listening position about a foot out from the wall...center position is about fifteen to twenty feet from the screen

    Its like 19wx18l , a nice square room completely closed in when door is shut leading to house.. The Acoustics should be great. My HT now is in my living room which is a huge open area with vaulted ceilings, the sound is horrible.

    I have 3 boys and a bunk bed that will sleep 2 and a normal bed the floor "racecar" bed for the other. I can fit these in but the bunk bed is about 99 inches long and putting it on the back wall where the rear speakers would go make is more difficult to have much space between them.

    So my 2 choices now would be putting the Rears in the middle of the room but they will have to be very close together to keep them centered with the bunk taking half the wall.

    Or put them on stands in each corner of that wall aimed at the middle couch.
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited July 2013
    Vaulted celings are nice,but trying to get good sound there is a prob...nothing for the sound to reflect off,just a void. Can you set your rears just slightly behind your center position? The trick is to be enveloped in the sound field.
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,467
    edited July 2013
    tpeter wrote: »



    Question 1, could I use a rear center channel and go 6.1 with a 7.1 receiver?

    Yes you can.
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  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    edited July 2013
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    Vaulted celings are nice,but trying to get good sound there is a prob...nothing for the sound to reflect off,just a void. Can you set your rears just slightly behind your center position? The trick is to be enveloped in the sound field.

    My couch will be maybe 4 feet from the back wall im guessing? I can put the 2 Lsi7s right on the wall behind the couch either on a wall mounted shelf or mounted on the wall in the studs using screws.


    But the 2 rears will most likely be 12 inches apart only if that makes a difference,
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    edited July 2013
    Geoff4rfc wrote: »
    Yes you can.

    I wonder if that would be better or easier , since the 2 Lsi7s would be so close together anyway?

    Actually EDIT:

    For 400 bucks it seems stupid not to get the LSi7s when another center will cost the same or more.
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited July 2013
    depending on the syle of your house most private houses have either scuttle holes more like 4' squares in either the mbr closet or another room or in the garage. If so you might be lucky if either way goes the length of the house.If you do this and go up STAY ON THE BEAMS!!!!!!Then you have both the ability of placing the wires were you want and very little to be seen then terminate where you want your amp/receiver.
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  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    edited July 2013
    depending on the syle of your house most private houses have either scuttle holes more like 4' squares in either the mbr closet or another room or in the garage. If so you might be lucky if either way goes the length of the house.If you do this and go up STAY ON THE BEAMS!!!!!!Then you have both the ability of placing the wires were you want and very little to be seen then terminate where you want your amp/receiver.

    Ill have to ask the guy doing the garage, im a idiot when it comes to that kind of thing.. Sad and pathetic I know, my wife is better than that then me
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • HK_VIP
    HK_VIP Posts: 11
    edited August 2013
    I personally used a pair of the Polk OWM3 because they can mounted in many ways. They are not high-end speakers but they perform well as rear speakers in a 7.1 system. You can also look into the OWM5 model if you need a lower profile look.
    Polk R300 x2
    Polk R150 x2
    Polk CSR
    Polk OWM3 x2
    Polk PSW10
    Onkyo HT-RC460
    VideoSecu MS07B M99 x2 (Adjustable stands for the R150's)