CD/SACD Recommendations

bored184
bored184 Posts: 324
edited August 2013 in Electronics
I am looking to purchase my first CD/SACD player or changer. I would prefer an older one because I do not need the DVD or Blueray features. My budget is 250.00 and I have an external DAC if that changes anything.
Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited July 2013
    Find a nice used oppo 83. Should be within your budget.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,769
    edited July 2013
    I like the older Sony models. Just avoid the cheapo SCD-ce595. Its junk. The 775 is essentially the same as the 2000ES. Both are good for the price. Not sure I'd pay more for the ES since warranty is a non-factor now.
    I have a fondness of the C333ES (I've had one for many years). The 555ES is nice, it sells for more than the 333, but IMO it does not sound better, it just has multichannel outs.

    Don't be afraid of the mid-2000's DVD/SACD players either. Regardless of whether use the video, some of them sound very good. Higher model Denon, Pioneer, and Yamaha models.
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  • drummer86
    drummer86 Posts: 441
    edited July 2013
    Oppo 980 plays everything including HDCD and DVD-A. Also comes in under budget :cheesygrin: and who doesn't love that? Since you have the outboard DAC I can't see you gaining much by spending more.
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited July 2013
    Big Dawg wrote: »
    Find a nice used oppo 83. Should be within your budget.

    This was the route I took and I am very happy.

    My only gripe is it won't let you send SACD or DVD-A through an external DAC. You have to use the DAC in the Oppo.

    Regular cd's can be sent through an external, however.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited August 2013
    Correct. The DSD does not go through the optical or coax out on any of them. They go through the internal dac. This is what started my quest for a higher end sacd player! Might sound strange but, going through my w4s dac2 on redbook was sounding better vs sacd on several players and took me on a long journey to find a player that would match up!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited August 2013
    erniejade wrote: »
    Correct. The DSD does not go through the optical or coax out on any of them. They go through the internal dac. This is what started my quest for a higher end sacd player! Might sound strange but, going through my w4s dac2 on redbook was sounding better vs sacd on several players and took me on a long journey to find a player that would match up!

    I've long held the same thought. A good cdp into a good dac with a well recorded 16/44 cd....can easily sound as good as most SACD players. Plus with an external dac in the chain you have more source hookup options too.
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  • bored184
    bored184 Posts: 324
    edited August 2013
    I've pulled my horns in a little bit and may go with just a regular CD player. I wouldn't my eventually trying SACD but what ever I purchase will go in my dedicated 2 channel rig so SACD may be a bit over kill.
    Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
    Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
    Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,451
    edited August 2013
    SACD is not over kill it is the shiznit
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited August 2013
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SACD is not over kill it is the shiznit

    Maybe so....but just like redbook cd's, good recordings are hard to come by on either format. Plus redbook can be downloaded on a 'puter, SACD not so much.

    Either way, good recordings regardless of the format are becoming some what of a high end ticket price. The more the industry drives hi-rez, the more they charge for good recordings. Shame really too, some SACD's I would love to own but I refuse to pay the ridiculous prices being asked. Same with hi-rez files. You used to be able to buy a whole cd for what some want for a single song. Eh, I guess times change and I shouldn't complain, what fun is that though. :biggrin:
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,451
    edited August 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    Maybe so....but just like redbook cd's, good recordings are hard to come by on either format. Plus redbook can be downloaded on a 'puter, SACD not so much.

    Either way, good recordings regardless of the format are becoming some what of a high end ticket price. The more the industry drives hi-rez, the more they charge for good recordings. Shame really too, some SACD's I would love to own but I refuse to pay the ridiculous prices being asked. Same with hi-rez files. You used to be able to buy a whole cd for what some want for a single song. Eh, I guess times change and I shouldn't complain, what fun is that though. :biggrin:

    I agree on many of your points. That being said I have yet to put any of my 600 CD's on computer. I have copied CD's to use in the vehicle and I can't do that with SACD but then again I have never seen the need to have that critical listening in the vehicle. Yes the price on SACD is somewhat pricey the most I have ever paid was 75.00 Alison Krauss and Union station live a BARGIN since many go for far more....smackin head....I so should of bought it at best buy when I seen 20 of them for 9.99 per SACD hindsight is 20/20. The last SHM-SACD and only one I have is Black Sabbath paranoid good yes worth 60.00 no I paid 40.00 just to see what it was all about and it still has bad tape hiss in the quite parts:sad:
  • bored184
    bored184 Posts: 324
    edited August 2013
    The Sony SCD C333ES has peaked my interest what would I expect to pay for one used?
    Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
    Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
    Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,287
    edited August 2013
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