Technics SL1200 MK2 w/ Grado Prestige blue cartridge

newbie308
newbie308 Posts: 767
edited July 2013 in Electronics
I was listening to some Led Zeppelin IV on vinyl last night when I started hearing a strange wavering in the sound and then pop the needle skipped. I'm scratching my head because I have never experienced this before. I Cued the record to the same track and it did it again. I let the record play the entire side and found that it has this symptom only on the first and last track. I examined the arm while playing to make sure that the record was not running out or warped, and it was not in either case. When the needle approaches the problem areas, I can see the cartridge start to oscillate back and forth over the needle until it jumps a groove, and then it plays just fine from that point on. I checked the tracking force, the anti skate, and the alignment (I used the Vinyl engine printout for the Technics) but the problem persists. I guess I should try another record, but by the time I did the checks that I mentioned, it was bed time for Bonzo. Has anyone here experienced this symptom? What resolved the problem?
Sources: Technics SL1200MKII | SME3009 Tonearm | Monster Alpha 1 MC cartridge | Oppo UDP203 disk player | Nikko NT-790 analog tuner | Musical Fidelity Trivista 21 DAC | Preamp: Threshold SL-10 | Amplifier: Threshold Stasis 2 | Speakers: Snell Acoustics C/V | Kimber 12-TC bi wire speakers | Analysis plus Oval 1 preamp to amp | Wireworld Eclipse 7 DAC to Preamp | Wireworld eclipse digital IC Oppo to DAC | Audioquest Quartz tuner to preamp |
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,650
    edited July 2013
    I would hazzard to say you are on the right track with the album itself.
    Typically a cartridge or arm issue is going to be constant.
    Try out another album and if the issue persists on another album, look to issues with the lift mechanism at those points in the arm travel.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited July 2013
    Sounds like something may be funky with the anti-skate.

    Definitely try another record.

    Try dialing down the anti-skate but leave the VTF alone - try that on the problem sections.

    You may also want to post this on audiokarma.org in the TT section: there is a SL1200 thread with some sharp folks who may be able to help as well.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited July 2013
    Hello,
    It is possible the resonant frequency of the arm/cartridge may be too high, putting it in the region of low bass on the record. One approach would be to increase the moving mass by adding a small weight underneath the headshell (many cartridges came with weights) then re-balance the arm keeping the tracking force the same. Then try playing the same passages.
    Regards, Ken
  • newbie308
    newbie308 Posts: 767
    edited July 2013
    Hello,
    It is possible the resonant frequency of the arm/cartridge may be too high, putting it in the region of low bass on the record. One approach would be to increase the moving mass by adding a small weight underneath the headshell (many cartridges came with weights) then re-balance the arm keeping the tracking force the same. Then try playing the same passages.
    Regards, Ken

    Kind of what I was thinking. I do have 2gram and 4 gram weights that came with the head shell. I think that I will give this a try when I get home from work. Thanks Ken! I will definitely try another record as well.
    Sources: Technics SL1200MKII | SME3009 Tonearm | Monster Alpha 1 MC cartridge | Oppo UDP203 disk player | Nikko NT-790 analog tuner | Musical Fidelity Trivista 21 DAC | Preamp: Threshold SL-10 | Amplifier: Threshold Stasis 2 | Speakers: Snell Acoustics C/V | Kimber 12-TC bi wire speakers | Analysis plus Oval 1 preamp to amp | Wireworld Eclipse 7 DAC to Preamp | Wireworld eclipse digital IC Oppo to DAC | Audioquest Quartz tuner to preamp |