Bridging amps and creating a common ground?

bored184
bored184 Posts: 324
edited June 2013 in Electronics
This may have been discussed but I can not seem to find and answer or at least and answer I understand. If I take either (2) Adcom GFA-555s or (2) Carver TFM-25s and bridged them so I would have one amp per channel. Is there a way to tie these amps together using the negative terminals to create a common ground? I would like to give this a try on my new SDA SRS 2, however I do not think mine even though modded will accept the dreadnaught.
Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited June 2013
    It is not suggested. The better option would be to bi-amp using one amp on the highs and one on the lows; if you wanted to use two amps. That is one of the limitations of SDA speakers that you have to live with...
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,650
    edited June 2013
    Also, having recently played with my LSi15s and bridged 555s, I can tell you that the trade offs aren't worth it. The SQ suffered. I got a horrible thump/pop on power on that I hadn't had before and overall, I only gained a little bit in volume at a given level.
    The benefits are outweighed by the negatives IMHO.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2013
    I'll say it again-- bridging 555's is painful. Save your monies and get a high current/power/quality amp.No disrespect here,, been there done that with the 555's.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,567
    edited June 2013
    Is there a way to tie these amps together using the negative terminals to create a common ground?
    No sir.
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  • bored184
    bored184 Posts: 324
    edited June 2013
    Thanks for all the input, I wont bother trying then if its not worth it. I thought it might be a fun adventure.
    Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
    Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
    Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,567
    edited June 2013
    It's not that it is not worth it, it's that you can't do it.
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  • bored184
    bored184 Posts: 324
    edited June 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's not that it is not worth it, it's that you can't do it.
    Thanks!

    Just for my own educational purposes what are the benefits, if there are any, of biamping and or bridging amps. I know the difference between the two and from my understanding its much better to biamp when possible. Currently my 1Cs can use the dreadnaught but I do not have a pair that are biamp capable.
    Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
    Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
    Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
  • Glen B
    Glen B Posts: 269
    edited June 2013
    When a single amp is driving a multi-way speaker system, back EMF from the woofer can result in increased low frequency intermodulation (IM) distortion of the audio signal, which affects the mids and highs to some small degree. When the woofer voice coil is being driven by the amp, movement of the voice coil in the magnetic pole is also generating a current (back EMF). Driving the woofer and mid/tweeter with separate amps solves the issue of interaction between the two, but you also need an active crossover to replace the passive crossovers. How well you match crossover frequency and slope to the speakers will determine the final results. Biamping can also be useful in taking advantage of two amps that have particular sonic strengths in the highs/midrange, and bass.

    Bridging an amp is useful where you want more power, often at modest increase in cost. One may already have an amp that is bridgeable and find that you need more power. It may be more cost effective to buy a second identical amp, and operate both in bridged mode versus purchasing a new higher powered stereo amp. At other times, bridged amps may just be a good bargain period. In my party system, I use three 50-watt-per channel amps in bridged mode, delivering 150 watts each. Total cost for all three amps is $225.00, which works out to $0.50 per watt. The downside of bridged amps can be increased distortion, heating, and inability to drive 4 ohm and lower loads. Amps that can drive 4 ohm loads when in bridged mode tend to be the exception rather than the norm.
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