Holy Crap! Audiostream just dropped the red pill on Digital . . .

SolidSqual
SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
edited June 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
http://www.audiostream.com/content/draft

Turns out 1s and 0s don't exist. They're just a construct to shape your view of digital. Also, digital doesn't exist, it's just a way of referring to really fast high tech analog signals. My mind is blown:

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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited June 2013
    And this is news?
    Too many arguments start with the whole "it's just 0's and 1's".
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited June 2013
    I guess the idea that's it's more than 1s and 0s is not new, but I've never heard such a good in depth discussion. Plus there will be a second part to the article. I've always heard the differences in 1s and 0s, but now I actually know why.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,803
    edited June 2013
    Right. Imagine how poorly computers would work if the thesis of the discussion in the link above were explicitly and utterly true for digital signal processing (as opposed to sorta-kinda true). Excel would say to you - "well, the answer might be 67, or it might be 43... it's a little blurry; sorry, hope that won't be a bother". Of course... this might explain the Li-ion batteries in the Boeing 787 Dreamliner...

    So, yeah, in the "real" real world, at high enough energies or on small enough scales, nothing is simple/binary/deterministic... and quantum mechanics is the best model for that... but in the kinda-sorta real world we inhabit, them digital switches are either "on" or "off" and that's close enough to run the laptop I am typin' on with pretty good fidelity (yeah, with some error-correction built in to the s/w to allow for the occasional cosmic ray or bad processor or memory element).
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited June 2013
    An interesting read; thanks!
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    edited June 2013
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    (See what I did there?) :cheesygrin:
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,724
    edited June 2013
    REPORTED: He said " 00100000 01110011 01101000 01101001 01110100 " ! :eek:

    j/k :wink: That was pretty good.

    Bad in the day, the big thing was "Fuzzy Logic" until folks realized that it was more trouble to "dumb" stuff down as it was to just write good code. At what point was "dumb" not good enough, at what point was "Okay, we're going to get serious here, pay close attention" ?

    Grey Code ? "That'll speed computers up ! ". True, in Grey Code when going from the binary number 1 (01) to the binary number 2 (11), only one bit changes state.
    When folks realized that this really didn't accomplish anything of value, it sort of went bye-bye.

    The guy did touch on some good stuff, IMO. Clock stability and rates in DAC's etc. But when it gets to where you're almost at the philosophical level of "Why are we here ?", then maybe it's time to dial back on the Monster energy drinks. :smile:

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited June 2013
    01000110 00110001 01001110 01110101 01110100 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100100 01101001 01110010 01110100 01111001 00100000 01101111 01101100 01100100 00100000 01101101 01100001 01101110 00100001
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    edited June 2013
    That's how I read into it as well. Once we started to drift away from the technology and into the philosphy, I lost interest.

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    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • Sprags
    Sprags Posts: 120
    edited June 2013
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    And this is news?
    Too many arguments start with the whole "it's just 0's and 1's".

    My life savings is a 1 followed by six 0's...unfortunately they are all to the right of the decimal point....or I'd have a pair of LSiM705's to go with my 703's.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,803
    edited June 2013
    I am sure that you all know there are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    edited June 2013
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I am sure that you all know there are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.

    Well played sir...well played indded. :lol:
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip