Got old Pioneer Elite VSX-07TX -- now have to re-test all the speakers.

Mystery
Mystery Posts: 2,546
edited June 2013 in Vintage Speakers
Not sure why I got it.
May be because it has 'Elite' and 'THX' on the face. :rolleyes:
Also, price was very good.

Anywho, it's old 5.1 Lucasfilm THX certified Pioneer Elite VSX-07TX receiver.
Sticker on the back says it was made in Japan in 1999.
It retailed for $1450. :surprised:

No remote and missing volume knob but works great with universal remote.
I'm not spending $50 on original remote.
I used a volume knob from a donor receiver.
It fits but the power light hole doesn't align to see the led light on the knob.

I never thought Polk SDA-2B's can sound that much better on this.
Looks like this one is a high current model as the Polk 2B's on my Marantz SR5500, Denon AVC-2000 and SX-880 never sounded as good as on this Pioneer Elite.
Bass improved so much that at the same listening level, I could feel the floor vibrating.
More punch, much bigger/open soundstage, overall more authority even at low volume.
And it was on 'Direct' mode without any tone or DSP.
Me likey.
The wpc is not that much different as the Marantz SR5500 is also 110wpc @ 6ohms but for some reason Elite just feels like it's pounding hard, everything sounds so tight, open and more depth.
Same songs and movie tracks had more bass vibrations and power overall.
Now I have to go through all of them to re-evaluate.
I opened the receiver and power capacitors are not that big but the transformer is massive.
Me thinks transformer weighs half of the whole receiver.

Either it's a good receiver or I was high on some Ganja. :wink:

Pioneer Elite VSX-07TX Receiver (5)-small.jpg

Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
Subwoofers: Klipsch RW10, Triad ProSub Bronze.
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  • StantonZ
    StantonZ Posts: 444
    edited June 2013
    I've never found ANY Denon amp/receiver that does well with Polks. Had one in the 90's that consistently "blew it's fuse" and that's the last Denon I ever owned; had Yamaha ever since.
    Yamaha RX-A2050 AVR (5.0.2); LG OLED77C2 4K TV
    (4) Polk Monitor 10B's w/SoniCaps, Mills, and RDO-194 tweets (R/L F/R)
    (2) Polk RC80i (Top Middle)
    Polk CS300 center channel
    Analog: B&O TX2 Turntable, Nakamichi Cassette Deck 1
    Digital: Pioneer CLD-99 Elite LD, Panasonic DMP-UB900 UHD Blu-Ray
    Bedroom: Arylic Up2Stream AMPv3 driving Polk Monitor 4's w/peerless tweets
  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited June 2013
    It's so amazing that receiver/amp's effect in sound is so drastic.
    I had a BOTL Sony STR series 5.1 receiver and not a single speaker sounded good.
    I gave that away to a friend probono.

    Then I bought Yamaha 5.1 receiver and that was huge upgrade from the Sony.
    After that Onkyo 7.1 HDMI receiver, not much better than Yamaha but pretty good.
    Marantz SR5500 sounded very good and 25 years old Denon AVC-2000 sounds even better but this Elite bests them all.
    Even old silver faced Pioneer SX-880, 780 etc... didn't sound as good.

    I need to move up to dedicated amps like Adcom but they won't be used much as even this receiver at 1/8th is more than the room/neighbors can handle so... :(

    Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
    Subwoofers: Klipsch RW10, Triad ProSub Bronze.
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,375
    edited June 2013
    StantonZ wrote: »
    I've never found ANY Denon amp/receiver that does well with Polks. Had one in the 90's that consistently "blew it's fuse" and that's the last Denon I ever owned; had Yamaha ever since.

    What Denon was that? My DRA-835R and 825R do great with any of my Polks. I even had the 835R pushing a pair of 4 Ohm Vienna Acoustics all day without breaking a sweat.

    My AVR-888 is another story. It drives them ok but can't match the DRA-835R for SQ.

    Stan
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited June 2013
    skrol wrote: »
    What Denon was that? My DRA-835R and 825R do great with any of my Polks. I even had the 835R pushing a pair of 4 Ohm Vienna Acoustics all day without breaking a sweat.

    My AVR-888 is another story. It drives them ok but can't match the DRA-835R for SQ.

    Stan

    He can chime in on Denon specifics but what I meant was not about breaking sweat.

    All the receivers I had/have run Polks fine all day long. I never had any receiver shut down while running.
    The difference is on the overall sound.
    Some receivers make them sound too bright, some veiled, some thin etc... but all of them do drive them fine.
    I wouldn't know the full/powerful sound from the same speakers with the Pioneer until I used it.

    Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
    Subwoofers: Klipsch RW10, Triad ProSub Bronze.
  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited June 2013
    Find an old Nakamichi amp and you will be even more surprised.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD