Beginner needing some advice

JackOfBlades
JackOfBlades Posts: 15
edited June 2013 in Speakers
Ok so here's the deal...I am finishing my basement and the dimensions for the media/bar area are 27.6'x16.6' with 8 foot ceilings...so far I have four rc85i's. I am going to put two in the wall on the eifht and left side of the couch and then two behind the couch in the ceiling. My question for everyone is would the tsi400s be enough for the room if I also have a center and a sub? Also does anyone have a good suggestion for a receiver to add to tat setup?
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  • JackOfBlades
    JackOfBlades Posts: 15
    edited June 2013
    Oh and I'd like to keep the receiver under $600 preferably
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited June 2013
    If its for HT I would.go.thr RTiA route
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  • JackOfBlades
    JackOfBlades Posts: 15
    edited June 2013
    Mainly HT...music when I have a party
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  • jumpindick
    jumpindick Posts: 428
    edited June 2013
    go for RTi A series. I have them installed and wow for HT.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,002
    edited June 2013
    What kind of center/subwoofer ? You obviously want to do 7.1 surround, and with that low a budget for a receiver if your looking at new, then stay in the monitor/tsi line or up to the rtia5's. Anything bigger will require a better receiver or an amp. We normally suggest you look for a receiver with preouts but new that may be hard. Used....the world is your oyster and I would suggest a used pioneer sc receiver like a SC 05, 07.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • JackOfBlades
    JackOfBlades Posts: 15
    edited June 2013
    I was looking at the csi a4 for the center...will probably do the Rti a5 for the front...still could use some help on a sub too...not sure what to get
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,002
    edited June 2013
    Subs....svs,hsu, polks micro-pro series....depends on the budget but don't skimp on the sub, it anchors the whole shebang.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • JackOfBlades
    JackOfBlades Posts: 15
    edited June 2013
    Hey tony would this receiver work?? http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR717-7-2-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B007JOO4YS/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1371757663&sr=8-12&keywords=pre-out+receiver
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited June 2013
    Onkyo isn't my preference for receivers, but that's a solid product nonetheless.
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  • JackOfBlades
    JackOfBlades Posts: 15
    edited June 2013
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    Onkyo isn't my preference for receivers, but that's a solid product nonetheless.

    I'm clueless when it comes to receivers! I am picking up a bit of knowledge here and there I guess. I am upping my budget for the receiver to $1,000. Can anyone help me with a couple options? I have decided to go with RTI A5 fronts
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    edited June 2013
    Good choice on your fronts. I would look for a Pioneer Elite SC series on the used market. I run A5's, for fronts, A3's And a CsiA4 center, powered by a Denon 891. It does not have pre outs but plenty enough power to run my set up. I like Denons, but would buy an Elite if I found a good deal on a used one. Welcome to the Polk family you are gonna love those A5's!
    Home Theater
    Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable

    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
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  • specd_out
    specd_out Posts: 505
    edited June 2013
    I run a5's with an a6 center off of a Pioneer elite vsx32. It has plenty of power to drive them but it also has preouts. Its a few years old now but the new models in the $800 range are lacking preouts
    HT Rig Samsung 64F8500 |Pioneer Elite BDP-52FD|Pioneer Elite VSX-32| Two Carver TFM-15cb Bridged for mains|Polk Audio RTiA5 Cherry|Polk Audio CsiA6 Cherry|Polk Audio T-15 Heights|Polk Audio FXia6 Surround|DIY 8cuft Dayton Ultimax 15" powered with a Crown XLS1000
    2Channel Rig Polk Audio LSi9 Cherry| Carver C-1BillD Mod|Carver M1.0t MkII Opt2|Pro-ject RM 1.3|SpeedBox S|AQ King Cobras|AQ Rocket88|
    ISF Level 2 Certified Calibrator
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,655
    edited June 2013
    specd_out wrote: »
    I run a5's with an a6 center off of a Pioneer elite vsx32. It has plenty of power to drive them but it also has preouts. Its a few years old now but the new models in the $800 range are lacking preouts

    SC-61 is $799.95 on Amazon and has pre-outs...

    Onkyo TX-NR818 is $799.00 on Amazon and has pre-outs...

    Denon AVR-3313Ci is $799.00 on Amazon and has pre-outs...

    Marantz SR5007 is $599.00 on Amazon and has pre-outs (the SR6007 is a closer match to the others above and is $899)

    Yamaha RX-A820 is $648.95 on Amazon and has pre-outs...

    Pioneer SC-1222-K is $579.99 on Amazon and has pre-outs...

    My point being, your stated that
    but the new models in the $800 range are lacking preouts
    is rather misleading...
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • detroitHOOLIGAN
    detroitHOOLIGAN Posts: 30
    edited June 2013
    I highly recommend the Marantz if you want basement thumping volume, if you are going to primarily do TV/video I like Yamaha, because of the price to features. Pioneer/Onkyo/Yamaha/Denon = Ford/Dodge/Chevy, Sony = Kia/ Hyundai to illustrate my point. It's preference and NOTHING else.

    So to each their own, but as an owner of 3 Vintage pioneers, A yamaha RX-671 that replaced my old Denon, Two 6-7 year old Onk's and a host of other gear, the Marantz is my favorite all in one. Clean, simple, powerful.

    Marantz really are a step above in the receiver category, I have a 5007, it has PA outputs and I use 2 recapped Pioneer SX-1050's and 1 Pioneer SX-1250 in the chain on my cobbled together basement Home Theater with B&W speakers (I prefer Polk and Aperion but, they fell off a ship at my friend's dock in Ireland.) The Marantz has the best sound using its own power as well but it is an affable processor IMO. Others will argue, and to be honest I will probably be dumping it for an Emotiva processor. But I still like it.

    Point is, the Marantz is the best bet. Used/New/Refurb I like the new RX-X75 series Yamaha's too for H/T use. My 2 year old 671 sounds great too and you can get them CHEAP.
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  • oleon621
    oleon621 Posts: 178
    edited June 2013
    I'll put in my two cents....

    Any Pionner SC, Yamaha Aventage, Denon 33XX, or you could maybe even do a pre and pro from emotiva. I personally love my Yammie. Powers my RTIA7's effortlessly. Good luck.
    Front- RTI A7,(powered by ADCOM GFA 5500)
    Center- CSI5,
    Surrounds- RTI 6 and Rear Surrounds- TS 15.
    TV-Panasonic P55ST50
    SUB-SVS PB10-NSD and PSW505
    Receiver- Yamaha Aventage RX-A2000
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