<prism> Always put your internet searches, emails, chats, & communications..</prism>

wayne3burk

<prism> within these tags. It apparently prevents any government surveillance systems from detecting communications within the tags. Really. No BS </prism>

ZLTFUL

*facepalm* No it doesn't.

PRISM is the NSA program that is the spearhead of the datamining that has everyone in such an uproar.
Tagging your message or search traffic with PRISM isn't going to do squat. Well, it might alert them that you are trying to hide something by believing in the latest internet tin foil hat fodder.

(Not the data mining but how to prevent it...the prevention part is the part that isn't true)

zingo

If the government wants to know what you're doing, they will, but they don't care about 99% of people; sorry for the hit on your self esteem.

oldmodman

The government is why I always start and end a phone call with the words "cocaine, overthrow, atomic bomb, IRS"

Gotta give those poor guys something to look busy doing.

zingo

That's good advice; I always start mine with "I hope no one is listening, but..."

tonyb

My preference is on video chat and opening and closing with a raised finger....guess which one.

However, it is a lesson learned many times over in history. Giving any one person or group too much power and it will get abused. That follows no particular ideology either, just human nature is all. So once again we go back to the lessons learned....don't give up too much power to anyone, period. But, seems those lessons learned need to constantly be repeated for we keep making the same mistakes. Do we not teach this stuff in school anymore ? Just curious is all.

polrbehr

No Tony, a lot of stuff taught in school follows an agenda I'd rather not go near. Fortunately my oldest seems to be looking straight down the path of success.

seeclear

So the gubmint can mine all this data about whom I call, how long we talk, etc, and that's all well and good, but we don't DARE ask for a photo ID when someone votes, 'cause that would violate someone's civil rights? OK, glad we got that all straightened out.:rolleyes:

nooshinjohn

So the gubmint can mine all this data about whom I call, how long we talk, etc, and that's all well and good, but we don't DARE ask for a photo ID when someone votes, 'cause that would violate someone's civil rights? OK, glad we got that all straightened out.

Perhaps we can have a "Purge" period here at CP, where for 12 hours we can say anything we want without fear of being banned.

Until then I will need to continue pleading the 5th, but his is as good a point as any. ID's would infringe upon the voting rights of the largest constituency group in every major city in the country... I see DEAD people at the polls all the time.

mrbigbluelight

:eek:

:eek:

John, be at peace ! Benevolent Leader is watching out for us !
(Benevolent Leader is a non-elected position so I assume mention of same is not broaching a forbidden topic)

polrbehr

nooshinjohn wrote: »

Perhaps we can have a "Purge" period here at CP, where for 12 hours we can say anything we want without fear of being banned.

Until then I will need to continue pleading the 5th, but his is as good a point as any. ID's would infringe upon the voting rights of the largest constituency group in every major city in the country... I see DEAD people at the polls all the time.

Probably not gonna happen, too bad though, you need to release some of this before you blow up!
It would be nice if the Polkarmy forum was still around... just saying.

Polkersince85

This is the beast of which you speak:

http://www.guavus.com/

cnh

Never mind!

cnh

codyc1ark

cnh wrote: »

Never mind!

cnh

I expected more from you! :cheesygrin:

cnh

Yeah, you're right! And I had a nice long retort, but then I realized that I was in the "wrong" quantum state (was occupying a different reality than this one) and quickly returned to the appropriate realm. lol

It occurred to me that the America that most people occupy is like the one written about in Dick's The Man in the High Castle (an alternate history that some of us would not care for).

cnh

obieone

The MAN of the hour

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nooshinjohn

^^^ now under indictment for treason.

As he should be. I do not condone what the NSA is doing by any means, but I have even less tolerance for traitors.

NotaSuv

SDA1C

Traitor? Could you elaborate please? Being done with cover up involvement is hardly treasonous. I guess it depends on which side of the aisle your on.

Now the Tax lady...that's treason! The fearless leader...That's high crimes and misdemeanors but this joker just got fed up. Don't blame him either. Can you honestly say his actions are any less superfluous in the big picture than a Charlie Rose interview? Honestly John....:rolleyes:

While you are here, do you have a line on bulbs for the 425 sig? Mine crapped out-like a factory part if available?

treitz3

That's what my Mi-Fi is...."FBI Surveillance Team", that is. I get a chuckle out of it anyways.

Hey guys, just playing a Devil's advocate here. Maybe, just maybe they are worried about things like this instead of your conversations with loved ones....

Hacking the World Economy with a 3-D Printer

By Hal M. Bundrick | TheStreet.com

NEW YORK (MainStreet)—It's called a printer but really is a manufacturing plant in a box. 3-D printers can build an object, layer upon layer, from plastic, metal, glass, ceramics – even chocolate. By now, we have seen that these amazing desktop devices can create guns, human tissue, DNA -- and drugs. As with most emerging technologies, for years 3-D printers were institutional and educational devices priced far beyond the reach of the typical consumer. Now you can buy one on Amazon. Creating your own plastic toy is one thing, but as the technology evolves, the world economy might face a physical hack from the same particle print-on-demand technology.

As cyber security expert Marc Goodman said in his presentation of "A Vision of Crimes in the Future" at the TEDGlobal 2012 conference, "Today most 3-D printers can print more than 50% of the parts required to make another 3-D printer -- a percentage that is increasing rapidly. Once 3-D devices cannot only produce weapons but also replicate themselves, the security and economic ramifications will escalate."
What are the risks to the global financial markets when mobile manufacturing can replicate the physical and the biological -- for illegal profit?
Robert Herjavec is best known as one of the millionaire investors on television's Shark Tank. He is the well-groomed, smiling Canadian – and usually the calmest -- shark on the panel. The program's introduction mentions The Herjavec Group, but offers few details on its function. Turns out Herjavec's firm is a 150 person operation in Toronto claiming to be the country's largest IT security provider. The company consults clients in 50 countries on cyber crime and terrorism, prevention and solutions. So when it comes to next-tech threats, Herjavec naturally has an opinion or two. His first thought when it comes to 3-D printers: he wants one.

"Firstly, I would like approval to order one of these for 'research purposes,'" Herjavec says. "Secondly, if I was to use it for no good; making copies of badges, such a police officer, detective, fireman, and the like, come to mind. Making copies of keys or thumbprints would be simple. Combining these two techniques with social engineering skills, would likely grant me access to banks and other financial institutions that historically would not have been accessible."
But Herjavec sees more of a threat from the technology than just breaking and entering and simple robbery.

"At a more global markets level, the fact that it becomes easy to copy any physical object, share its blueprints online, and then recreate it at home at manufacturing cost, with no shipping charges, would very quickly knock out the widget market right up to the automotive industry," he says. "But why stop there? As industrial sized 3-D printers become available, and blueprints for everything become accessible online, the public will gain access to aerospace technologies, missile designs, robotics, drones, spy gear and more. The era of 'Spy versus Spy' will be born and accessible to the 13-year-old living in his mother's basement."
Now that is scary.

"Many of our SCADA (supervisory control and data acquisition) systems that control everything from power, water, traffic, heating, cooling, and various other building or city controls utilize proprietary connectors and technologies that are relatively simple but inaccessible to hackers because of interfacing limitations," Herjavec continues. "3-D printers can instantly solve that problem by creating adaptors that would allow hackers to access previously unreachable systems. By creating these new attack vectors, many businesses and infrastructure systems will face a new era of threats they may not be prepared for."

Herjavec notes that up until recently, only large corporations had the resources and technology to genetically modify organisms. 3-D printers can eventually put this power in the hands of the public -- meaning anyone could create and release a deadly biological attack.
"If you targeted a particular ethnic group, global financial markets could easily be swayed as manufacturing shuts down in one area and moves to another," he says. Transformative tech, like 3-D printing -- also known as "additive manufacturing" --perennially gets into as many hands of the bad guys as the guys in white hats.
Always have, always will.
"There have been technological advances that have shaken the world in a relatively short amount of time, changing it forever -- these included the discovery of electricity, the telephone, the computer, the Internet and now the 3-D printer will join these coveted ranks".....

Look at the whole picture, not one with a limited scope.

Tom

nooshinjohn

He took deep and personal knowledge of a top secret program to a foreign government and reporters for purposes of divulging that knowledge to harm U.S. interests at home and abroad. Our already diminished standing in the world were further harmed by this, and untold damage has been done to intelligence gathering operations on a global scale. He could have taken his information to Capitol Hill and went to any number of Congressional Representatives that could have exposed this the right way.

I agree that what the NSA is doing is beyond egregious, unconstitutional and everything else under the sun. People need to be held to account and go to jail for a very long time for this, but treason, no matter how noble the act appears, is still treason.

As far as what side of the "Isle" I'm on... I take no sides except to stand firmly with the Constitution and an unshakable reliance upon Divine Provenance.

nooshinjohn

treitz3 wrote: »

That's what my Mi-Fi is...."FBI Surveillance Team", that is. I get a chuckle out of it anyways.

Hey guys, just playing a Devil's advocate here. Maybe, just maybe they are worried about things like this instead of your conversations with loved ones....



Look at the whole picture, not one with a limited scope.

Tom

But can they replicate SDA-SRS 1.2TL's with all the mods?

treitz3

Perhaps one day with multiple machines. Right now, only one material [IIRC, up to 3 colors] per printer but with multiple printers and the right engineering/application/technique? Just an FYI...

Cambridge, Mass. – June 18, 2013 – 3D printing can now be used to print lithium-ion microbatteries the size of a grain of sand. The printed microbatteries could supply electricity to tiny devices in fields from medicine to communications, including many that have lingered on lab benches for lack of a battery small enough to fit the device, yet provide enough stored energy to power them.

To make the microbatteries, a team based at Harvard University and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign printed precisely interlaced stacks of tiny battery electrodes, each less than the width of a human hair.

“Not only did we demonstrate for the first time that we can 3D-print a battery; we demonstrated it in the most rigorous way,” said Jennifer A. Lewis, senior author of the study, who is also the Hansjörg Wyss Professor of Biologically Inspired Engineering at the Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS), and a Core Faculty Member of the Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering at Harvard University. Lewis led the project in her prior position at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, in collaboration with co-author Shen Dillon, an Assistant Professor of Materials Science and Engineering there.

The results have been published online in the journal Advanced Materials.

In recent years engineers have invented many miniaturized devices, including medical implants, flying insect-like robots, and tiny cameras and microphones that fit on a pair of glasses. But often the batteries that power them are as large or larger than the devices themselves, which defeats the purpose of building small.

To get around this problem, manufacturers have traditionally deposited thin films of solid materials to build the electrodes. However, due to their ultra-thin design, these solid-state micro-batteries do not pack sufficient energy to power tomorrow’s miniaturized devices.

The scientists realized they could pack more energy if they could create stacks of tightly interlaced, ultrathin electrodes that were built out of plane. For this they turned to 3D printing. 3D printers follow instructions from three-dimensional computer drawings, depositing successive layers of material—inks—to build a physical object from the ground up, much like stacking a deck of cards one at a time. The technique is used in a range of fields, from producing crowns in dental labs to rapid prototyping of aerospace, automotive, and consumer goods. Lewis’ group has greatly expanded the capabilities of 3D printing. They have designed a broad range of functional inks—inks with useful chemical and electrical properties. And they have used those inks with their custom-built 3D printers to create precise structures with the electronic, optical, mechanical, or biologically relevant properties they want.



To create the microbattery, a custom-built 3D printer extrudes special inks through a nozzle narrower than a human hair. Those inks solidify to create the battery’s anode (red) and cathode (purple), layer by layer. A case (green) then encloses the electrodes and the electrolyte solution is added to create a working microbattery. (Illustration courtesy of Jennifer A. Lewis.)

To print 3D electrodes, Lewis’ group first created and tested several specialized inks. Unlike the ink in an office inkjet printer, which comes out as droplets of liquid that wet the page, the inks developed for extrusion-based 3D printing must fulfill two difficult requirements. They must exit fine nozzles like toothpaste from a tube, and they must immediately harden into their final form.

In this case, the inks also had to function as electrochemically active materials to create working anodes and cathodes, and they had to harden into layers that are as narrow as those produced by thin-film manufacturing methods. To accomplish these goals, the researchers created an ink for the anode with nanoparticles of one lithium metal oxide compound, and an ink for the cathode from nanoparticles of another. The printer deposited the inks onto the teeth of two gold combs, creating a tightly interlaced stack of anodes and cathodes. Then the researchers packaged the electrodes into a tiny container and filled it with an electrolyte solution to complete the battery.

Next, they measured how much energy could be packed into the tiny batteries, how much power they could deliver, and how long they held a charge. “The electrochemical performance is comparable to commercial batteries in terms of charge and discharge rate, cycle life and energy densities. We’re just able to achieve this on a much smaller scale,” Dillon said.

“Jennifer’s innovative microbattery ink designs dramatically expand the practical uses of 3D printing, and simultaneously open up entirely new possibilities for miniaturization of all types of devices, both medical and non-medical. It’s tremendously exciting,” said Wyss Founding Director Donald Ingber, who is also a Professor of Bioengineering at Harvard SEAS.

The work was supported by the National Science Foundation and the DOE Energy Frontier Research Center on Light-Material Interactions in Energy Conversion. Lewis and Dillon collaborated with lead author Ke Sun, a graduate student in Materials Science and Engineering at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; Teng-Sing Wei, a graduate student at Harvard SEAS; Bok Yeop Ahn, a Senior Research Scientist at the Wyss Institute and SEAS; and Jung Yoon Seo, a visiting scientist in the Lewis group, from the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology.


In this video, 3D printing is used to deposit a specially formulated "ink" through a fine nozzle to build a microbattery's anode layer by layer. Unlike an office inkjet printer that dispenses ink droplets onto paper, these inks are formulated to exit the nozzle like toothpaste from a tube and immediately harden into thin layers. The printed anode contains nanoparticles of a lithium metal oxide compound that provide the proper electrochemical properties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olQn2iklQmw

SDA1C

To other governments? If that's the case then I missed something. When was the last time you saw the Big Dick take care of anyone that entrusted them with knowledge that could bust their buddies? I have to wonder if the recent direction and attack on or beloved sheet of buck skin has anything to do with the reasons for his manner of divulgence and not necessarily for reasons of personal gain...i.e. he don't trust 'em.

The 3d printer thing...what? Are we against capitalism now or are we not still free to advance our own abilities without having to check in with others?

For the record...I know what side of the aisle you are on John. LOL so do the mods and every one else AHAHA. Semper Fi!

tonyb

nooshinjohn wrote: »

He took deep and personal knowledge of a top secret program to a foreign government and reporters for purposes of divulging that knowledge to harm U.S. interests at home and abroad. Our already diminished standing in the world were further harmed by this, and untold damage has been done to intelligence gathering operations on a global scale. He could have taken his information to Capitol Hill and went to any number of Congressional Representatives that could have exposed this the right way.
I agree that what the NSA is doing is beyond egregious, unconstitutional and everything else under the sun. People need to be held to account and go to jail for a very long time for this, but treason, no matter how noble the act appears, is still treason.
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John, we both know that wasn't an option. How can you go to the very people perpetrating the crime with that info ....and still not fret over your own safety ? As much as all the big mouths are shouting down on capitol hill, it's all political grand standing. They know whats going on, they are just pissed off we now know some of it. As far as treason goes, noble as it is, yes I agree but without some willing to do this, how else are we to find out ? What I take away from this is what I always believed, you can't trust a word that comes out of Washington/politicians. Government is suppose to be a partner in prosperity to it's citizens, not the enemy. When governments are allowed to operate in secrecy, while taking away individual privacy rights, that's a bad situation. Granted, some secrets need to be kept for national security reasons, no doubt, but from what I gather most of what he exposed was done on American citizens. Are we the enemy ? Just asking is all because it sure feels like it to me.

BlueFox

Personally, I find it interesting that anyone is even surprised this is occurring. Being cynical by nature, I would say this is the tip if the iceberg.


On a side note, what this really shows is there are no long term secrets. So while I do believe we are not alone in the universe, I seriously doubt there are any definitive UFO secrets at Area 51, or anyplace else.

nooshinjohn

There are a few there that care about doing the right thing... hell, I would have went straight to former Congressman Allan West with this before I went anywhere else. Some things are best left to a group of individuals working together from within than from the outside looking in.

In acting alone, he committed treason, pure and simple. He acted impulsively, foolishly, and without allies. What a boneheaded move IMHO. someone like West Rubio or Rand Paul would have provided some cover and some assurances that action would be taken without opening up our nation's secrets to the world.

txcoastal1

tonyb wrote: »

Are we the enemy ?

Perhaps and a good question. Its not anyone is happy, no matter your stand point.

SDA1C

nooshinjohn wrote: »

Some things are best left to a group of individuals working together from within than from the outside looking in.

Last I heard it was "of the people" So by telling the people by any means he is confiding in the very body and basis this country is founded on. If the leeches in Washington can't get on board then let them fall. I see his actions as more of an attempt at continued awareness rather than a wikileaks sort of affair.

tonyb

Perhaps John, there may still be some of character and integrity down there but that still won't insure the mans safety. Was it done without any thought to consequences ? Yep....but he himself has put the country between a rock and a hard place with no other solution but to go after him for treason. This we agree on.

Now, if any of you kind gentlemen would like to look up the very definition of treason, I'm pretty sure we can apply that to more than half of congress and the executive branch. A big/tough/meaningful word that when applied to the average citizen invokes hatred for betraying ones country. When applied to those in power however.....means diddly.

nooshinjohn

SDA1C wrote: »

Last I heard it was "of the people" So by telling the people by any means he is confiding in the very body and basis this country is founded on. If the leeches in Washington can't get on board then let them fall. I see his actions as more of an attempt at continued awareness rather than a wikileaks sort of affair.

From ABC News...

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange said Wednesday that his group has been in touch with Edward Snowden’s legal team, the man who says he’s behind the National Security Agency leaks.

“We are in touch with Mr. Snowden’s legal team and have been, are involved, in the process of brokering his asylum in Iceland,” Assange said on a conference call with reporters marking his one year since entering the Ecuadoran embassy in London seeking asylum.

Assange said he feels a “great deal of personal sympathy” with Snowden, but would not comment if he has spoken to Snowden directly or if they were in contact before Snowden leaked news to The Guardian and The Washington Post that detailed secret, far-reaching NSA Internet and phone surveillance programs.

IMHO if it walks like a duck and quacks like one... you are the company you keep, and in this case treasonistas stick together.

Again, don't misunderstand my position. I too believe as you do that the NSA bs is completely wrong and horrific in it's implications for freedom. Even Mr . O was targeted in 2004 by some reports. This must stop and the wrongdoers brought to justice. because of how Mr. Snowden went about exposing this, he needs his day in court as well. I don't think he will get much in the way of jail time here, but we are a nation of laws, not a nation of feelings. Justice must be done or the Constitution is just toilet paper.

I'm out on this one lest I be silenced by the powers that be...........