New Parasound CDP

steveinaz
steveinaz Posts: 19,538
edited May 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
Interesting:

http://www.parasound.com/halo/cd1.php
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited May 2013
    $4,500.00 ouch !!!
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2013
    Yeah, they're proud of it. LOL
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2013
    From some of what I read, it reads all of the CD to memory first (ala Rega) greatly reducing many influences of potential jitter.
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited May 2013
    For that kind of money i would go ModWright Oppo-105.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2013
    It is a good design. The drive is a CD-ROM drive than a normal CD drive, which allows the data to be read twice before being put into a buffer. From there it goes through the D/A conversion, and is supposed to sound pretty good. It is quasi-reviewed in the June 2013 issue of stereophile.

    If all you have are CDs and have no plans of ever playing high-res files it probably is a good buy. However, I would recommend not buying it since there are much better alternatives for a few dollars more.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,964
    edited May 2013
    Ya know, I'm still amazed at the makers of cdp's these days. Since people actually buying cd's is on the down swing, why not add a digital INPUT to attract more buyers and make that cdp more useful to the end user.
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  • bobsauto49
    bobsauto49 Posts: 973
    edited May 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    Since people actually buying cd's is on the down swing, why not add a digital INPUT to attract more buyers and make that cdp more useful to the end user.
    My Thoughts Exactly! Been wondering this for a long time?:rolleyes:
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,498
    edited May 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    ..... why not add a digital INPUT to attract more buyers and make that cdp more useful to the end user.

    I was thinkin' that too.

    EDIT: Just to add I do know it can be more than just a plug, couple of wires and digital switching. I recall when Dan told me $800 to add digital input to his ModWright 9100ES. Reason for high cost was adding a pricey clock to reclock the digital input. This way he is assured a poor source clock won't have a negative affect on the SQ of his original mod with pricey clock. So is it a price point thing, difficult due to the player design....dunno.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,964
    edited May 2013
    Could be Rich, but I have to imagine not all digital inputs are going to cost that. Especially if designed from the gitgo. In Dan's case, it's more likely the retro fitting process that costs the coinage.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2013
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    I recall when Dan told me $800 to add digital input to his ModWright 9100ES.

    I suspect the fact that it is an add-on versus being designed in, along with the very limited sales numbers of it, plays a big part in the price.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,498
    edited May 2013
    I hear ya Skip.

    From their white paper...

    http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/CD1Whitepaper.pdf
    No DAC Inputs for External Digital Sources

    The CD 1 design and construction is optimized for near-perfect reproduction of the 44.1 kHz data in Red Book CDs. Adding DAC inputs to accommodate other digital sources would involve far more than simply adding digital input connectors and a selector switch. For the CD 1 to provide a comparable levels of performance for CDs and external digital sources would have greatly increased its complexity and selling price.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2013
    It's still only a CD player....dinosaur baby. It'd be like going back to the horse & buggy. To much out there to even consider it.
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited May 2013
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    It's still only a CD player....dinosaur baby. It'd be like going back to the horse & buggy. To much out there to even consider it.
    Repeat post # 5. IMO
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,964
    edited May 2013
    I wouldn't go that far Phil, not yet anyway. CDP's still have their place. Much like that old tube pre amp, a dinosaur as you put it, but still can and does earn it's place on even the most discerning ears rack.

    Digital tunes isn't for everyone, nor is tubes, vinyl or even SS for that matter. That's the beauty of it, choices. Only makes sense since we all hear differently. I wouldn't proclaim the high ground in audio formats just yet pal.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    Digital tunes isn't for everyone, nor is tubes, vinyl or even SS for that matter. That's the beauty of it, choices. Only makes sense since we all hear differently. I wouldn't proclaim the high ground in audio formats just yet pal.

    While I agree with the gist of your post one point that seems to sometimes get people confused is that a CD player is a digital file player. It reads the digital file from the CD, turns it into analog, and sends it to the pre. From a technical perspective, it is irrelevant whether the digital file is read from a CD, a hard drive, or some other storage media. It is the same file.

    The problem with the CD player is that while it was the first way to read digital files there are better methods today that have much better performance.
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited May 2013
    Upsampling to 352.8khz, first time I've seen that.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    I wouldn't go that far Phil, not yet anyway. CDP's still have their place. Much like that old tube pre amp, a dinosaur as you put it, but still can and does earn it's place on even the most discerning ears rack.

    Digital tunes isn't for everyone, nor is tubes, vinyl or even SS for that matter. That's the beauty of it, choices. Only makes sense since we all hear differently. I wouldn't proclaim the high ground in audio formats just yet pal.

    I hear ya...but you still have to get your arse out of the chair, walk over & put another one of those disc thingies on. I think I put on 10lbs not having to move my butt. Nothing like having the world of music at your fingertips. Once you experience it there's no going back.
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