Game changer?...Or not? Magnetic Cables

pitdogg2
pitdogg2 Posts: 25,424
edited May 2013 in The Clubhouse
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2013
    Very diff approach to cables, I would love to say bullsh$t
  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited May 2013
    Most of the people commenting on that article don't seem to be buying in.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,398
    edited May 2013
    hochpt21 wrote: »
    Most of the people commenting on that article don't seem to be buying in.



    And with exception of just ONE person, nobody commenting has actually heard them, and seem to be dismissive of the fact that cables do matter at all. I take their input with less that a grain of salt, but would still want more info before I paid any money for them.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2013
    Sounds (no pun intended) like an interesting idea. It amazes how the **** of the world are so ready to dismiss ideas that do not fit their idea as to how the universe should operate.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Sounds (no pun intended) like an interesting idea. It amazes how the **** of the world are so ready to dismiss ideas that do not fit their idea as to how the universe should operate.

    I think they are dismissing the lack of credentials the inventor has or the absence of an expansive explanation or scientific testing and white papers to support the claims
  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    edited May 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Sounds (no pun intended) like an interesting idea. It amazes how the **** of the world are so ready to dismiss ideas that do not fit their idea as to how the universe should operate.

    I agree, you shouldn't dismiss it, BF, at least until after you've given it a listen.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,424
    edited May 2013
    Sort of reminds me of the laser cables that i believe Maridian came out with 10-15 yrs ago. I had seen or heard nothing else about them. They could be still made but so far above pay grade that it wouldn't matter anyway....
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,524
    edited May 2013
    Isn't that Rick Shultz of Virtual Dynamics fame or am I mistaken? I do know that VD had a very similar notion.
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited May 2013
    And with exception of just ONE person, nobody commenting has actually heard them, and seem to be dismissive of the fact that cables do matter at all. I take their input with less that a grain of salt, but would still want more info before I paid any money for them.

    You're right. I didn't look at it too hard. Wasn't taking a side of the fence, just commenting.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2013
    There seems to be quite alot of glowing reviews contrary to the dismissive posts http://www.highfidelitycables.com/reviews.html
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2013
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    I agree, you shouldn't dismiss it, BF, at least until after you've given it a listen.

    Reported. Still trolling. :rolleyes:
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  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    edited May 2013
    Wow, BF, just wow! A guy can't even agree with your statement without catching flak. :rolleyes:
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,279
    edited May 2013
    I've heard and seen them, but Rick kinda creeped me out. Russman and I sat through his spill at LSAF. I am not going to dismiss his cables because I have not heard a comparison in the same system nor have I heard them in my system...and yes I am a cable believer.

    But what was strange is all the other little trinkets in his room...see circled images. He did not speak about them, but they looked liked device from Machina Dynamica

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2013
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    I agree, you shouldn't dismiss it, BF, at least until after you've given it a listen.
    teekay0007 wrote: »
    Wow, BF, just wow! A guy can't even agree with your statement without catching flak. :rolleyes:

    If I misread your statement then my apologies. I said that it sounded like a good idea, and then you came back and said I shouldn't dismiss it, when I did not dismiss it. Hence, it appeared to be a trolling response.
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    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

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    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,524
    edited May 2013
    I've heard and seen them, but Rick kinda creeped me out.

    So, that is Rick of VD fame.....thought so. I spent 70 minutes on the phone with him once, he talked for 65 of those minutes. I can say he's very passionate about his products, which isn't a bad thing.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,524
    edited May 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    If I misread your statement then my apologies.

    You didn't misread it.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited May 2013
    They sound like their really cool..
    In the pic above the tweeter on the left speaker, reminds me of the Realistic Super Tweeter, I think it was called..
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited May 2013
    I remember those. http://diyaudioprojects.com/Drivers/40-1310/40-1310.htm
    Jhayman wrote: »
    They sound like their really cool..
    In the pic above the tweeter on the left speaker, reminds me of the Realistic Super Tweeter, I think it was called..
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited May 2013
    Yup that's the one my parents had one or two, I can't remember why though our speakers were the Realistic Mach One's which I thought were really cool looking when I was 14.
    PolkieMan wrote: »
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  • custopper30
    custopper30 Posts: 252
    edited May 2013
    They look interesting. I don't know what to think about them
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,776
    edited May 2013
    The RF world has long taken advantage of the magnetic vs. electric fields of EM radiation as a tool to improve performance/reduce noise. Whether it has any bearing at low (audio) frequencies - I dunno. It is safe to assume the physics was worked out ca. a century ago, though.

    http://www.w8ji.com/magnetic_receiving_loops.htm
    http://sidstation.loudet.org/antenna-theory-en.xhtml
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,424
    edited May 2013
    PolkieMan wrote: »

    I wish i had bought all i could back in the day @ 12.50ea. They now sell for darn near 100.00 all day everyday on ebay.....
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,776
    edited May 2013
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I wish i had bought all i could back in the day @ 12.50ea. They now sell for darn near 100.00 all day everyday on ebay.....
    You can get the current production version from Fostex for half that, you know?
    http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/bullet-tweeters/fostex-ft17h-horn-super-tweeter/

    ft17h.jpg

    ... and (FWIW), although neither as sensitive nor quite as extended, the vintage R/S 40-1375 planar is (IMO) a much sweeter sounding driver (and shouldn't set you back 100 smackers a pair even on eBAY)...

    40-1375.jpg
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited May 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Isn't that Rick Shultz of Virtual Dynamics fame or am I mistaken? I do know that VD had a very similar notion.

    Not sure about VD, But he is the founder of EVS, Electronic Visionary Systems. Among other things he does mods to some of the OPPO players. He also invented a cheap tweak called the ground enhancer, which I've yet to try. Some of the respected folks on AA swear by it.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,424
    edited May 2013
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    You can get the current production version from Fostex for half that, you know?
    http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/bullet-tweeters/fostex-ft17h-horn-super-tweeter/

    ft17h.jpg

    ... and (FWIW), although neither as sensitive nor quite as extended, the vintage R/S 40-1375 planar is (IMO) a much sweeter sounding driver (and shouldn't set you back 100 smackers a pair even on eBAY)...

    40-1375.jpg

    my comment was more based on the fact I would never of thought that in this day they would be so desirable.
    No i don't need them was just flabbergasted that folks are paying 100+ frogskins for them.
    when i had the I faced them back towards the wall for expanded sound so to speak hurt my ears straight on...
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,776
    edited May 2013
    they're better behaved when crossed in higher than the built in XOs they were sold with... yes, I realize it's a different topic :-)
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited May 2013
    I'd love to hear them for myself, as ears are the best decider no matter what you think of the science.