Help me build minimal 2-channel system for senior US Diplomat's house

Intel92
Intel92 Posts: 146
edited May 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
I've been asked to buy a simple 2-channel system for the Ambassador here and would like your input. It's an easy task but I don't want to mess this up! haha.

- No used equipment
- Budget total: Not to exceed $5,000 ($3,000 is my personal max, well under preferred)
- 2 channel, 1 large room.
- Only for music
- Minimal speakers (no towers)
- Wireless (not a must but absolutely preferred)
- ipod dock (not a must but absolutely preferred)
- separate cd player (multi cd preferred)

I'm going to build 3 systems of varying costs and then he will decide which he wants.

Thanks for the help.

Wayne
Theater rig:
Pio Elite Pro 111-FD
Pio Elite VSX-01TXH
Mains: RTi12s
Center: CSi5
Surrounds: FXi3s, RTi6s
Sub: Velodyne V-1012-B
Amp: Carver TFM-35
Harmony 890
PS3

2-channel rig in progress:
LSi15s
.........

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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited May 2013
    No towers for a large room? Prolly going to need a sub. I would look at cambridge audio stuff with b and w pm1 speakers and a mid level sub. Velodyne svs or hsu
  • D_M
    D_M Posts: 175
    edited May 2013
    Intel92,

    All prices are MSRP so you should be able to look around and save the extra $400. You are probably going to need a rack for the equipment and stands for the speakers, but it all depends on what is already in the room. If the room already has a credenza or something, you are probably all set.

    Marantz M-CR603............MSRP $700
    Marantz MM7025 ............MSRP $800
    Marantz CC4003..............MSRP $400
    Polk LSiM 703................. MSRP $1500
    $3400
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited May 2013
    The above recommendations looks pretty solid, and should be available world wide.
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited May 2013
    teh first question is what exactly do you want to be wireless? A music server? The speakers? A networked receiver?

    Here are some options (but nothing is wireless):

    1. NAD - C-326BEE Integrated Amp- 550 from audioadvisor.com
    2. Peachtree - musicBox - Hybrid-Integrated w/DAC (an iPod dock and DAC) - 575 from aa
    3. Marantz- CC-4003 5 Disc Changer - 400 from audioadvisor
    4. NHT Classic 3 Bookshelf Speakers - 800 demo from audioadvisor (available directly from NHT as well)
    5. Sanus - Steel Foundations - Mark IV Speaker Stands - 130 from aa

    Pretty sweet system well under budget, which is good because you will need to reserve at least 200-300 for cables, probably closer to 500 for a system like this. Of course there are a TON of options. Good luck.
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra

    Bedroom 2.1
    Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • Intel92
    Intel92 Posts: 146
    edited May 2013
    Thanks Gents (assumably).

    The room is large but the music to be played 90% of the time will be background music during receptions. I should have mentioned that. A sub will not be necessary.

    D_M - will the 603 power the speakers well enough for that by itself?

    roof - He would prefer the speakers to be wireless.

    Thanks for the responses, doing some reading now. Unfortunately I'm on the other side of the world and it's difficult to reply in good time.
    Theater rig:
    Pio Elite Pro 111-FD
    Pio Elite VSX-01TXH
    Mains: RTi12s
    Center: CSi5
    Surrounds: FXi3s, RTi6s
    Sub: Velodyne V-1012-B
    Amp: Carver TFM-35
    Harmony 890
    PS3

    2-channel rig in progress:
    LSi15s
    .........

  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited May 2013
    On the wireless speaker side of the equation the Dynaudio Xeo 3 or 5 is a possibility. They could be blended in to most interiors and the system contains the amplifiers and DAC in each of the speaker cabinets. All they need is a power cord and a wireless connection (WIFI) to a computer for the music feed. I believe the Xeo 3 system lists for around $2300 USD.
    integrated w/DAC module Gryphon Diablo 300
    server Wolf Alpha 3SX
    phono pre Dynamic Sounds Associates Phono II
    turntable/tonearms Origin Live Sovereign Mk3 dual arm, Origin Live Enterprise Mk4, Origin Live Illustrious Mk3c
    cartridges Miyajima Madake, Ortofon Windfeld Ti, Ortofon
    speakers Rockport Mira II
    cables Synergistic Research Cables, Gryphon VPI XLR, Sablon 2020 USB
    rack Adona Eris 6dw
    ultrasonic cleaner Degritter
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,490
    edited May 2013
    Depends if the Ambassador wants to have a system permanently installed for functions or have something he can take with him when his term is up. Since it's just for background noise, I'd recommend a set of in-ceiling or in-wall speakers. Probably more than two speakers to cover the room. Put whatever other gear in a cabinet somewhere out of the way. Doesn't matter much what the gear is. Could be a receiver. I would recommend more than two channel amplification to cover the whole room equally. You'll also need to have a pro handle the installation, although an electrician could do it.

    For speakers, something like these:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/products/900ls
  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited May 2013
    Reported ^
    integrated w/DAC module Gryphon Diablo 300
    server Wolf Alpha 3SX
    phono pre Dynamic Sounds Associates Phono II
    turntable/tonearms Origin Live Sovereign Mk3 dual arm, Origin Live Enterprise Mk4, Origin Live Illustrious Mk3c
    cartridges Miyajima Madake, Ortofon Windfeld Ti, Ortofon
    speakers Rockport Mira II
    cables Synergistic Research Cables, Gryphon VPI XLR, Sablon 2020 USB
    rack Adona Eris 6dw
    ultrasonic cleaner Degritter
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited May 2013
    As much as it paints me to say it, for something like that with just background music I'd just get a Bose system and be done with it.
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited May 2013
    Good call on the Dynaudio Xeo speakers are they are very nice.
  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited May 2013
    As much as it paints me to say it, for something like that with just background music I'd just get a Bose system and be done with it.

    Nothing wrong with that suggestion. Bose is really good for background music.
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2013
    1 pair of KEF ls50 .... $1300 to $1500 new
    1 Peachtree Audio iNova Digital iPod Dock with DAC $1399 new
    1 Marantz CC4003 5 Disc CD Changer $400 new

    Here is some links to read, I would be proud to put that together for my boss

    KEF ... http://www.kefdirect.com/ls50.html?gclid=CMf9jYbpmrcCFclr7AodPAMAtQ

    Peachtree integrated..... http://www.amazon.com/Peachtree-Audio-iNova-Digital-Gloss/dp/B004MNQ730/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1368713636&sr=8-5&keywords=peachtree+audio

    Marantz .... http://www.amazon.com/Marantz-CC4003-Disc-Changer-Black/dp/B002KKCPA6/ref=sr_1_81?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368713849&sr=1-81&keywords=multi-disc+cd+player
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited May 2013
    Just curious here.How and what kind of security clearance do you have ?Probably none of my buiness but these things do interest me.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
  • Intel92
    Intel92 Posts: 146
    edited May 2013
    Gents - THANKS for all of the input! I made my recommendations and we'll see what happens. I think he's going to go with a Marantz set up. I also recommended Martin Logan flat panel on-walls. I think I've convinced him that wireless isn't necessary. Once we receive everything and I get it set up I'll post a picture.

    Leftwinger - There are actually only 3 levels of classification. Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret. You might hear of someone having an SCI clearance (Sensitive Compartmented Information, usually written as TS/SCI) and that it is higher than Top Secret. Not true. Among the 3 clearance levels there are what are called caveats (including SCI) and other special categories programs (SPECAT) that individuals get read on to if they have the need to know. So that's some general info but I can't go much further for ya.
    Theater rig:
    Pio Elite Pro 111-FD
    Pio Elite VSX-01TXH
    Mains: RTi12s
    Center: CSi5
    Surrounds: FXi3s, RTi6s
    Sub: Velodyne V-1012-B
    Amp: Carver TFM-35
    Harmony 890
    PS3

    2-channel rig in progress:
    LSi15s
    .........

  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited May 2013
    Wayne!

    Top Secret here 1978-2008. 15 years working for SAC gives you the BIG picture.

    If the Bose system is what he/she wants, get the competing/equivalent Cambridge Soundworks equipment. He can save a bundle on the Bose, and live happily...

    Make him buy a turntable so, you know. So he needs vinyl.
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited May 2013
    Hey George was Curtis Lemay still around SAC in those days. That was one dude you did not trifel with. His way or you were shipped to Greenland.......
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
  • doctorcilantro
    doctorcilantro Posts: 2,028
    edited May 2013
    Based on what I have used

    Zotac ZBOX (300 USD?)
    Antelope Silver (1500 USD)
    Hoyt Bedford Model 1.5 (2?) (1500 shipped)
    APPJ tube amp (200 USD)
    Cables ****


    The Peachtree is a good choice though!


    Do you have HiFi in Oman? I usually order from US and hand carry, Dubai, or there is one over the causeway on Bahrain. Muscat is on my short list for future trips.
    For Sale 2019:
    Tortuga Audio LDR passive preamp
    Decware EL34 amp
    Allnic H-1201 phono
    Zu Union Cubes
    iFi iDSD DAC, .5m UBS, iFI Gemini cable, Oyaide Tunami XLR 1.3M, Oyaide Tunami Speaker wire 1.5M, Beyerdynamic DT1990 headphones, PS Audio P3 power center

  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited May 2013
    Curtis was long gone by the time I was in SAC. He WAS feisty.

    I think when he retired he started a R&B group, Little Curtis & The Airbursts.
  • oldwave
    oldwave Posts: 1
    edited May 2013
    Just bought the following system and LOVE it: Marantz integrated amp PM6004, Marantz CD player CD6004. Also bought 2 pairs of Polk speakers that both have been used with this system: RTi A1 and RTi A3. The A3's sound huge with this system. Moved these to another system and bought the A1's for this system which is in a small room. This is the best music system I have ever owned. Buy two sets of A3's for 2 different rooms and you will be nowhere close to the top of your budget.
  • Intel92
    Intel92 Posts: 146
    edited May 2013
    Hilarious George!! By the way, if you haven't noticed, I kinda went off the radar for quite some time. Had some personal and professional things to deal with but you can expect to hear from me as usual again soon.

    So thanks for all of the responses. I've made my recommendations to him and we'll see what they order. Once it all arrives I'll bump this thread up.
    Theater rig:
    Pio Elite Pro 111-FD
    Pio Elite VSX-01TXH
    Mains: RTi12s
    Center: CSi5
    Surrounds: FXi3s, RTi6s
    Sub: Velodyne V-1012-B
    Amp: Carver TFM-35
    Harmony 890
    PS3

    2-channel rig in progress:
    LSi15s
    .........