Shuguang Black Treasure Tubes

dhart86
dhart86 Posts: 1,594
edited June 2013 in Electronics
I am looking to buy so KT-88 Black Treasure Tubes and I would like to know if anybody knows of trusted sites to buy genuine Black Treasures. I now about Grant Fidelity, but wondered if there were any alternative sites/vendor. Tell me about your experience.
Main Rig:
Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited May 2013
    I have 6 of them that I have bought from one of the Chinese sites you see on E-bay. I'm having problems with 2 of them. I contacted the seller since they do have a 12 month warranty and the seller has offered to replace them after I pay to send them back to China and have them tested. There's no telling how long it will take for the whole process to play out and who knows if they will end up honoring the warranty. The seller questioned if my amp was defective. I have used them on two different amps and the problem(shorting) occurred with both amps. In addition I have 7 different quads of power tubes that have never given me a problem with either amp. The problem is definitely with the treasures. My advice is to buy them from Grant Fidelity or another trusted North American seller.

    On a positive note the Treasures are absolutely the best sounding power tubes I've ever heard including some uber expensive NOS types. They are worth paying a little more from Grant Fidelity and such to get quality, tested, and trusted tubes. They will take the performance of your amp and system in general to the next level.
  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited May 2013
    Dawgfish wrote: »
    I have 6 of them that I have bought from one of the Chinese sites you see on E-bay. I'm having problems with 2 of them. I contacted the seller since they do have a 12 month warranty and the seller has offered to replace them after I pay to send them back to China and have them tested. There's no telling how long it will take for the whole process to play out and who knows if they will end up honoring the warranty. The seller questioned if my amp was defective. I have used them on two different amps and the problem(shorting) occurred with both amps. In addition I have 7 different quads of power tubes that have never given me a problem with either amp. The problem is definitely with the treasures. My advice is to buy them from Grant Fidelity or another trusted North American seller.

    On a positive note the Treasures are absolutely the best sounding power tubes I've ever heard including some uber expensive NOS types. They are worth paying a little more from Grant Fidelity and such to get quality, tested, and trusted tubes. They will take the performance of your amp and system in general to the next level.

    Thanks Dawgfish
    I appreciate your input and experience. Your probably right about getting them from grant fidelity
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited May 2013
    I bought my Treasure KT88s and other tubes from Helen at JJYAUDIO. I think George has bought from her as well. Might ping him.

    http://jjyaudio.com/products01.asp?id=314&menuid=255
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2013
    Grant Fidelity no longer sells them and sells a new psvane tube for a super high price
  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited May 2013
    Thanks for the link Tracy! That's a really good price on them.

    I bought mine from here: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=230606628836&index=17&nav=SEARCH&nid=48961646890

    Could just be my bad luck that I received 2 bad out 6. If it was just 1 I wouldn't be skeptical, but 2... Hopefully they'll honor their warranty.
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited May 2013
    thsmith wrote: »
    I bought my Treasure KT88s and other tubes from Helen at JJYAUDIO. I think George has bought from her as well. Might ping him.

    http://jjyaudio.com/products01.asp?id=314&menuid=255

    Yep,, thats the place-- I bought a quad of 6CA7's,, great folks to deal with,,very reliable!
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited May 2013
    thsmith wrote: »
    I bought my Treasure KT88s and other tubes from Helen at JJYAUDIO. I think George has bought from her as well. Might ping him.

    http://jjyaudio.com/products01.asp?id=314&menuid=255

    See.....that's what I'm talking about!!! Thanks thsmith and George........I will be trying to place an order thru their online request system. How doe that work....

    Anyway, thsmith, I can always count on you to get in the conversation about treasure tubes(lol). I know you like them and I know why. The CV-181-V (6sn7) popped my cherry on the treasures

    Thanks again guys!
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited May 2013
    I usually send an email to Helen and she responds with a good price and then I ask her to invoice me using paypal.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited May 2013
    thsmith wrote: »
    I usually send an email to Helen and she responds with a good price and then I ask her to invoice me using paypal.
    Thanks thsmith, I'll try her today
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited May 2013
    I've only purchased Shuguang Treasure and Psvane tubes from GF, but did have a good experience each time.
  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited May 2013
    thsmith wrote: »
    I bought my Treasure KT88s and other tubes from Helen at JJYAUDIO. I think George has bought from her as well. Might ping him.

    http://jjyaudio.com/products01.asp?id=314&menuid=255
    Thanks for the link brotha......just ordered a quad yesterday & everything was as smooth as you described
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited May 2013
    Helen will take care of you.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited May 2013
    I ordered a quad from a Chinese seller on Ebay also. I had to send one back after around 6 months because it failed. Replacement was no hassle. I think I bought the original quad in around July 2011 and they only lasted until Feb 2013 when the 3 originals wouldn't hold bias anymore. Not exactly sure how long that had been an issue. I don't think they lasted for crap though although they sounded excellent. I don't know, mine were possible seconds (or thirds) or something. As a side note, I dropped one of them and broke it. Examining it I couldn't tell one difference between the way it looked and a regular Shuguang KT88. Exact same construction, I didn't notice any color differences even between any of the metals. Maybe the 'improved' materials aren't visible, or??? Just sayin'
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    edited June 2013
    I also ordered my KT-88 50 years treasures from China... a matched quad from Hanshare on ebay, and he had great price and the quality isoutstanding... gotem in 3 days $259 for the quad with express shipping.. only have about 10 hours on them but you won't regret these bottls for sure.
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