bellari VP130 phono tube pre amp...

jymyben
jymyben Posts: 8
edited May 2013 in Electronics
hi...

does anyone else use one of these?

i picked one up yesterday, hooked it up to a yamaha MX1000U power amp/onkyo P3060R pre running polk audio monitor 10's and 7's...

my turntable is a low end sony...

the sound with the tube pre added was low end mud, no mids or high end what so ever...

i run all tone controls on the onkyo flat, and had to crank the treb's, cut the lows to get anything close to a decent sound....

i tried replacing the JJ 12AX7 tube with a JJ 12AU7 thinking i might gain some head room and clean things up a bit...

didnt work...

i did a search looking for trouble shooting ideas, found several threads on other forums about too much high end, and loss of low, not my issues at all....

the LP's i was testing with was made in japan by deep purple, and lateralus by tool, a lp that usually fills my room with a sound that makes me think it's three deminsional...

not what i was getting yesterday....

i'm using monster cables to connect it to my pre...

rumble switch is engaged, and i am not cranking the output on the bellari....

it's probably at 7:00....

i've got a couple of other 12AX7's i can try....

or wonder if a higher quality turntable is needed...

ideas?

thanks for your time...
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  • jimbo1421
    jimbo1421 Posts: 772
    edited April 2013
    Is the Bellari plugged into the phono input on your preamp? If so, use the AUX or other input.

    Jim
    5.1 System:
    TCL R613 55" 4K
    Front: SRS-3.1TL
    Center: CS400i
    Surround: Monitor 10B
    PSW10 subwoofer
    Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
    NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
    Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
    Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
    Parasound P3 pre-amp
    Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
    2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

    2.0 Office System:
    Monitor 10A (Peerless)
    Outlaw 1050 receiver
    Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
    MacPro
  • jymyben
    jymyben Posts: 8
    edited May 2013
    ok, thanks for the suggestion.....
  • jymyben
    jymyben Posts: 8
    edited May 2013
    that worked....

    thank you very much....
  • jimbo1421
    jimbo1421 Posts: 772
    edited May 2013
    The phono input on your Onkyo P3060R isn't just a convenience for switching between sources. Unlike CDs or tapes LPs are recorded with what is known as the RIAA curve. It decreases the bass reesponse to keep the needle from jumping out of the groove and also boosts the treble response. A phono preamp like the Bellari or the built-in phono section in your P3060R reverses this, boosting the bass response and diminishing the high end. By plugging the Bellari phono preamp into the phono input you were doubling that correction.

    Jim
    5.1 System:
    TCL R613 55" 4K
    Front: SRS-3.1TL
    Center: CS400i
    Surround: Monitor 10B
    PSW10 subwoofer
    Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
    NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
    Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
    Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
    Parasound P3 pre-amp
    Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
    2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

    2.0 Office System:
    Monitor 10A (Peerless)
    Outlaw 1050 receiver
    Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
    MacPro