Using both inputs on a sub?

kelley
kelley Posts: 287
edited December 2003 in Speakers
I was just browsing around at Tweeter and I see Monster has a new sub cable out that's packaged with a "Y" adapter so you can hook to both left and right inputs. Is anyone running their setup this way or has anybody tried it? I wouldn't think it would make much of a difference but I'm always looking. Another quick question. Where to get an Avia (I think that's how it's spelled) disk for system setup? I've looked online but can't come up with anything.



Thanks. Mitch
SDS-400, SDA-1B, SVS 20-39pc+, B&K Ref 50, Denon 2900
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  • Terrax
    Terrax Posts: 483
    edited December 2003
    Mitch,

    When using a single channel line-level input, the auto on/off circuit sensitivity is affected. And less signal is seen by this circuit. Which may allow the sub to not be turn on at low volumes. That is why you will see the use of a Y connector employed. With a Y connector more signal is present thus allowing the auto on/off to turn on the sub even at lower volume settings.

    As to Avia, it is a nice HT calibration disc, but it is a tad bit dated compared to the new Digital Video Essentials that can be ordered by calling this toll free number = 1-888-316-2837, the cost is 24.95 plus s/h. you also receive a free DTS Sampler disc. Avia costs alittle more too.

    Hope this helps,
    Terry
  • howie777
    howie777 Posts: 357
    edited December 2003
    My manual for my sub explicitly states to NOT use a Y cable with an LFE signal from the receiver. Here is why, although this may sound like a plus to some of you.

    "Do not use a Y-connector to connect the signal to both the LEFT and RIGHT inputs of the subwoofer. These inputs are sumed to mono in the amplifier input stage, and if they are combined, the result will be too much gain and bass level."

    But that is my sub. It does not say it will cause any damage, just doubles the input.

    Howie
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2003
    Using a "Y" adapator to run the LFE input to both the left and right channels will give you approximately 6dB of gain. I have not measured this myself - This information comes from the good folks at Adire Audio.
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  • kelley
    kelley Posts: 287
    edited December 2003
    Thanks for the disk info Terrax. You bring up a good point Howie. I was looking at a speaker cable manufacture website last night and they also said most people notice a 3-9 db gain when using both inputs. I guess it doesn't make a lot of difference when you can raise the subs level either on the receiver or sub amp controls. I have the 20-39pc+ and you do have to turn it up some to get the auto on circuit to actuate.
    SDS-400, SDA-1B, SVS 20-39pc+, B&K Ref 50, Denon 2900
  • agw
    agw Posts: 22
    edited December 2003
    There is more info on this subject at the subwoofer hookup / bass management section of the forum, look for a post dated 12-12-03 titled sub single or y wire. This will give you further insight.
  • kelley
    kelley Posts: 287
    edited December 2003
    Thanks. I should've caught that in the other forum. Mitch
    SDS-400, SDA-1B, SVS 20-39pc+, B&K Ref 50, Denon 2900
  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited December 2003
    But why is there a Left and Right but you can only use 1 or the other????
  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited December 2003
    Velodyne told me to use both, so there's some difference of opinion out there. What a surprise.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
  • scornful
    scornful Posts: 272
    edited December 2003
    I would imagine it would largely depend on how the amplifier section of the sub was designed....
    Denon 3802
    B&K 7270
    Outlaw ICBM
    Behringer DSP1124P
    Samson S1000
    SVS 20-39CS+ (x2)
    RTi150's
    CSi40
    FXi30's
    RTi38's
    Win Vista HTPC
    InFocus 4805 ~100" Screen