Basic Wire Hook Up

Sly
Sly Posts: 2
Hello Forum, I recently purchased a Pioneer Elite A/V receiver: SC-63, and also purchased two (2) Polk audio LSiM705 floorstanding Speakers, and I need to know what kind of speaker or cable wires do I need? Thanks for any help you can give me.
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  • hosedagain
    hosedagain Posts: 116
    edited April 2013
    12AWG or 14AWG wire, Home Depot. Don't Bi Wire no benefit, I am sure others will chime in..
  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited April 2013
    You can do a lot better than cheap home depot wire, speaking from personal experience. If you don't want to spend a lot check out blue jeans cable, signal cable, I personally like Kimber Kable for the price. I don't think it makes sense to spend that much on a nice pair of speakers and AVR and skimp on cables, even though someone always disagrees and wants to turn it into a debate. Just my .02 form actual experience.
  • eclypse
    eclypse Posts: 595
    edited April 2013
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)
  • hosedagain
    hosedagain Posts: 116
    edited April 2013
    Google speaker wire comparison, let the debate begin...again..

    http://www.roger-russell.com/wire.htm
  • Speedskater
    Speedskater Posts: 495
    edited April 2013
    From 1980, Nelson Pass on speaker cables. Not much new since then.

    'SPEAKER CABLES: Science or Snake Oil' - First Watt
    http://www.firs****t.com/pdf/art_spkr_cable.pdf

    The little new stuff was covered by Cyril Bateman
    Cyril Bateman Articles
    Electronics World Magazine

    Measuring Speaker Cables: 1 Cyril Bateman Dec 1996 p925
    Measuring Speaker Cables: 2 Cyril Bateman Jan 1997 p52
    Measuring Speaker Cables: 3 Cyril Bateman Feb 1997 p119
  • Sly
    Sly Posts: 2
    edited April 2013
    hosedagain wrote: »
    Google speaker wire comparison, let the debate begin...again..

    http://www.roger-russell.com/wire.htm
    Hi Hosedagain,
    I like this website, and I will go with Roger-Russell. Thanks very much for this information.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,653
    edited April 2013
    Sly, do yourself a HUGE favor and completely ignore that outdated load of horse manure from woger wussell and the other know-nothings. You bought yourself some nice gear and it deserves better cable because it definitely makes a difference. Cull thru these pages and you'll find countless folks that after actually trying better cable for themselves, unlike the naysayers above, now swear by it.

    Some good cable suggestions have been made and you didn't say what you're looking to spend, but since you've already spent good coin on the gear, I'm going to suggest you look at the offerings from MIT. You can find member reviews here, http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?115800-MIT-CVT-1-Cable-Demo-Review-Round-3 and here, http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?129583-MIT-Shotgun-S3.3-Cable-Demo-Review-Round-4
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2013
    hosedagain wrote: »
    12AWG or 14AWG wire, Home Depot. Don't Bi Wire no benefit, I am sure others will chime in..
    B Run wrote: »
    You can do a lot better than cheap home depot wire, speaking from personal experience. If you don't want to spend a lot check out blue jeans cable, signal cable, I personally like Kimber Kable for the price. I don't think it makes sense to spend that much on a nice pair of speakers and AVR and skimp on cables, even though someone always disagrees and wants to turn it into a debate. Just my .02 form actual experience.

    Actually, both answers are worthwhile. See and hear the improvement of 12 gauge Home Depot wire over cheapo 16 gauge. Then buy a little bit better. Be careful though, there is always a better cable out there.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • sodablue
    sodablue Posts: 24
    edited April 2013
    I've been using expensive hi-fi cabling for several years, and while I spent a considerable amount of money on this wire, I was moving my equipment into a new room which required shorter cable runs. Not wishing to wrap the excess cable up and create a distortion in the electric field I decided I needed new wire.

    I've heard a lot about this wire they sell at Home Depot and I decided it was time to give it a try. I visited my local Home Depot dealer and inquired about this new wire. Sadly they were sold out of the 12 and 14 gauge rolls, but I did pick up a roll of 50 feet of 16 gauge wire for $10.

    The package was labeled GE Ultra Pro, which should tell you something. First it's made by General Electric, one of the oldest names in electricity. A company founded by Thomas Edison himself. And second, it's the Ultra Pro line which means it's Ultra and it's Professional. The colors chosen for the package were also professional in appearance, a nice shade of grey with a contemporary looking blue accent. Two thumbs up on packaging!

    I pulled open the cellophane wrapping that surrounded the reel and I was delighted to see this wire. The insulation was supple and yielding, soft to the touch and pliant when bent. This insulation bound together two wires for the positive and negative channels, each composed of multiple strands of thinner wire. One side of the wire had been tinned to a beautiful silver color, allowing the user to properly align the polarity between the amplifier and the speakers. Aligning polarity is an important concept in connecting speakers, for an unaligned system will sound dead and lifeless. I'm glad to see the GE wire provided separate channels for electrical polarity.

    The package informed me that the multi-stranded wire would help deliver deep bass and clean highs, and I was eagerly looking forward to experiencing this sensation.

    Unfortunately first we had to burn in the wire. So I cut off two 8' lengths of this fine cable and stripped the ends with my utility knife. I hooked up the wire between my Denon AVR-3802 receiver and my Polk RTI4 speakers, and loaded up my special burn-in song... Yoko Ono's cover of LMFAO "I'm sexy and I know it". I set this to play repetitively for 200 hours, just to make sure the cables were properly burned in.

    With that done, it was ready to do a proper comparison. I reinstalled the expensive hi-fi cables and played a sampling of music from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. It sounded great, just as I would have expected. The Polk RTI4 speakers really have a nice sound, good soundstage and surprising bass for their size.

    Now it was time to compare the new cables. I removed the expensive hi-fi cables and installed the new wire from Home Depot. I put the same Pink Floyd album back on and sat back to listen.

    I gotta say wow! It's true, the bass was deeper and the highs cleaner, just as the marketing literature said it would be. The sound stage opened up, and I was immersed in the beauty and wonder of the music.

    In told, i have to say I'm highly impressed with these new cables from Home Depot. They improve the sound just like the package says, and they are priced right.

    I still have excess cable remaining, and I may just try bi-wiring!
  • hosedagain
    hosedagain Posts: 116
    edited April 2013
    sodablue wrote: »
    I've been using expensive hi-fi cabling for several years, and while I spent a considerable amount of money on this wire, I was moving my equipment into a new room which required shorter cable runs. Not wishing to wrap the excess cable up and create a distortion in the electric field I decided I needed new wire.

    I've heard a lot about this wire they sell at Home Depot and I decided it was time to give it a try. I visited my local Home Depot dealer and inquired about this new wire. Sadly they were sold out of the 12 and 14 gauge rolls, but I did pick up a roll of 50 feet of 16 gauge wire for $10.

    The package was labeled GE Ultra Pro, which should tell you something. First it's made by General Electric, one of the oldest names in electricity. A company founded by Thomas Edison himself. And second, it's the Ultra Pro line which means it's Ultra and it's Professional. The colors chosen for the package were also professional in appearance, a nice shade of grey with a contemporary looking blue accent. Two thumbs up on packaging!

    I pulled open the cellophane wrapping that surrounded the reel and I was delighted to see this wire. The insulation was supple and yielding, soft to the touch and pliant when bent. This insulation bound together two wires for the positive and negative channels, each composed of multiple strands of thinner wire. One side of the wire had been tinned to a beautiful silver color, allowing the user to properly align the polarity between the amplifier and the speakers. Aligning polarity is an important concept in connecting speakers, for an unaligned system will sound dead and lifeless. I'm glad to see the GE wire provided separate channels for electrical polarity.

    The package informed me that the multi-stranded wire would help deliver deep bass and clean highs, and I was eagerly looking forward to experiencing this sensation.

    Unfortunately first we had to burn in the wire. So I cut off two 8' lengths of this fine cable and stripped the ends with my utility knife. I hooked up the wire between my Denon AVR-3802 receiver and my Polk RTI4 speakers, and loaded up my special burn-in song... Yoko Ono's cover of LMFAO "I'm sexy and I know it". I set this to play repetitively for 200 hours, just to make sure the cables were properly burned in.

    With that done, it was ready to do a proper comparison. I reinstalled the expensive hi-fi cables and played a sampling of music from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. It sounded great, just as I would have expected. The Polk RTI4 speakers really have a nice sound, good soundstage and surprising bass for their size.

    Now it was time to compare the new cables. I removed the expensive hi-fi cables and installed the new wire from Home Depot. I put the same Pink Floyd album back on and sat back to listen.

    I gotta say wow! It's true, the bass was deeper and the highs cleaner, just as the marketing literature said it would be. The sound stage opened up, and I was immersed in the beauty and wonder of the music.

    In told, i have to say I'm highly impressed with these new cables from Home Depot. They improve the sound just like the package says, and they are priced right.

    I still have excess cable remaining, and I may just try bi-wiring!

    Not sure, from what I have read if bi-wiring will help in sound quality. requires more research. Google
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,774
    edited April 2013
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  • jumpindick
    jumpindick Posts: 428
    edited April 2013
    +1 too blue jean cable. Also look at Audioquest. I use Audioquest X2 14 AWG and it is good.