High High's Missing?
erik4
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Hello All:
I have a pair of 2000i's, a 400i center, a pair of 500i surround and a 350 SW. Included in my system is a 90W X 5 channel Denon Receiver and a 200W per channel SAE amp connected to the receivers preamp out and the 2000i's. I also have a pair of older Boston Acoustics floor speakers 150w handling capacity. Here's my question:
I love the system .......but, I miss the clarity of the highs being produced in the system (the symbol in a drum set just doesn't sound natural..especially a "brush" stick. Any suggestions to increase the HIGH - Highs in the system. I'm talking about tones that are nearly inaudible by the human ear. Thanks in advance. Erik
I have a pair of 2000i's, a 400i center, a pair of 500i surround and a 350 SW. Included in my system is a 90W X 5 channel Denon Receiver and a 200W per channel SAE amp connected to the receivers preamp out and the 2000i's. I also have a pair of older Boston Acoustics floor speakers 150w handling capacity. Here's my question:
I love the system .......but, I miss the clarity of the highs being produced in the system (the symbol in a drum set just doesn't sound natural..especially a "brush" stick. Any suggestions to increase the HIGH - Highs in the system. I'm talking about tones that are nearly inaudible by the human ear. Thanks in advance. Erik
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Hi Erik,
That sounds like a nice setup you've got there.
Did you just recently get new speakers? The reason I ask is that the lack of high-highs you describe might just be the characteristics of your speakers. To me at least, the tri-lam tweeter has a more "laid back" sound than the tweeters in some other speakers I've owned. (I have also heard it described as 'harsh') Of course, all speakers and all listeners are different. Some people prefer brighter, more pronounced highs that you might get from Klipsch, for example. If you listen to something long enough, your ears become accustomed to it, and it sounds normal to you. That may not be what you're experiencing, but that would be my guess.
Speaker placement and interaction with your room furnishings will also affect the sound you hear, but I'm sure you know that.
I can't really think of anything you could do to increase the highs, short of tweaking your tone controls. Good luck!
Jason -
Jason:
I anticipated your reply, thanks though. Do you have any suggestions about adding any component that might help \? -
I kind of figured that I wasn't telling you anything you didn't already know; Just thought I'd take a stab at it, since no one else had.
I don't really know what else you could do/add unless you went with some sort of equalizer, or something of that nature. That doesn't sound like very good solution, to me. Do you feel that all your sources (CD, DVD, etc.) are lacking in high freqs? Do the highs from the Boston's sound better to you? What I'm getting at, is do you think it could be some of your components, or is it the speakers that sound dull? -
Hi:
Sounds like you have some sort of setup problem. I have almost the same speakers and have a 200X3 B&K amp, plus a Denon 4802 Receiver and the highs are tremendous. Check your setup.
Gary -
Personaly.. I have the 2000's also on a Yammie 795a wich is only 80w per channel... I find the highs very detailed... matter of fact ..most of the single driver speakers on the rti line have better highs then the dual drivers: ie the 1000's vs 800... Notice this using a HK avr8000..... ...
Have you tried to bi-wire them??? -
What would bi-wiring do? Are you talking about hooking up the speakers to the Denon's power and the SAE's power at the same time? Not sure if that's what you mean. There are two inputs on each 2000. I guess I'm a little nieve.
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To Bi-wire, you would run speaker wires from the output terminals on the amp to each set of binding posts on the speaker, and remove the little flat jumpers that connect the two sets of binding posts, now. If you've got the manual, there should be a diagram in there.
The speaker would be connected to the same place, just with seperate wires for the high and low freq.
I've got my RT800i's bi-wired. It seems to make a subtle, hard to describe, difference. Seems to me to kind of open up the midrange. Don't expect a night-and-day difference, but it can't hurt to try. -
Erik:
Not being smart, but do you think that maybe your hearing has deteoriated over time. I know that in this generation, and all the loud car subs and such that people that listen to, over an extender period of time, and at over 100db can damage the hearing.
I am amazed when I hear a car go by with the trunk vibrating and the sound so loud it can be heard a block away. They don't have a clue that they will be partially deaf in short order and won't even know it till it's too late. Also, where are the parents that don't inform their teens.
Just a thought so don't get offended. In hearing loss the first thing to go are the high frequencies.
Gary:p -
Gary:
You may have hit on something. Yes, I did think about it. At 47 I'm not as young as I was when I remember those highs coming from a pair of Electro Research near top of the line model (anybody ever heard of those). Too many Grateful Dead concerts over the years I guess. Oh well, the 2000i's sounded better today. Maybe I'm suffering from the ageing process. I really do like the 2000's. I'm just wondering how they'd sound running parallel with a good pair of Klipsch. Thanks for your comments. Erik -
These speakers also need a break-in period to allow them the opportunity to fully blossom.
I inquired about matching Klipsch's with my Polk's and was instructed to remove my head from out of my ****. I have since done so and am going to purchase the rt55i's to match my rt800i's. I'm guessing you'll want to do something similar. -
Hahahah! That's great!I inquired about matching Klipsch's with my Polk's and was instructed to remove my head from out of my ****. I have since done so and am going to purchase the rt55i's to match my rt800i's. I'm guessing you'll want to do something similar.
Aaron -
I just bought a pair of 2000i's because I was so impressed with their warm sound. However upon getting them home I found one sounded great amd the other was missing the whole high end. Maybe you got two like my one bad one.
