More power for my home theatre

mrmoeone
mrmoeone Posts: 12
Hi guys I'm new to the home theatre game so I have some questions. My set up is a denon avr1712 polk tsi 200 for my fronts a cs1 series 2 center channel, rm 7 satellites for the surrounds and 2 psw 505 subs. So my question is should I get a separate amp to get more power out of my speakers? And if so how does a separate amp hook up to my avr? Sorry if this is a dumb question I'm a newb when it comes to this stuff.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,572
    edited March 2013
    mrmoeone wrote: »
    Hi guys I'm new to the home theatre game so I have some questions. My set up is a denon avr1712 polk tsi 200 for my fronts a cs1 series 2 center channel, rm 7 satellites for the surrounds and 2 psw 505 subs. So my question is should I get a separate amp to get more power out of my speakers? And if so how does a separate amp hook up to my avr? Sorry if this is a dumb question I'm a newb when it comes to this stuff.

    If your Denon had pre-outs for extra amps you would just use it like a pre-amp...But your Denon has no pre-outs except for a sub. so unless you get a new AVR the answer is NO.
  • mrmoeone
    mrmoeone Posts: 12
    edited March 2013
    I just wasn't sure if the speakers were being driven good enough form the receiver I have but it sounds like they are, my system sounds good and I've been to other forums where they would talk about pre amps and it got me thinking if I was missing something.
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited March 2013
    You're only missing something if you think you are... :mrgreen:
  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
    edited March 2013
    zingo wrote: »
    You're only missing something if you think you are... :mrgreen:

    And if you think you are....that's usually a good enough reason to spend more money! :biggrin:
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2013
    Welcome to Club Polk.

    Your receiver does not have preouts so you can't add a separate amp. More power is always good, and don't believe that you wouldn't hear an improvement if you had a powerful amp driving your speakers to their full potential. My 23yr old $600.00 speakers showed me what they can really do when I gave them 205wpc to munch on.

    If you are happy with the sound then fine, but if you ever get the change to upgrade your receiver, make sure to get one with preouts so that then you have the option of adding a separate amp.
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  • mrmoeone
    mrmoeone Posts: 12
    edited March 2013
    Thanks cfrizz I appreciate the help I'm hoping to be able to upgrade my receiver in the near future, and ill be sure it has those connections:biggrin:
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    edited March 2013
    mrmoeone wrote: »
    Thanks cfrizz I appreciate the help I'm hoping to be able to upgrade my receiver in the near future, and ill be sure it has those connections:biggrin:

    Your receiver you have now is fine for what speakers you have. The subwoofers are doing all the heavy lifting and making it easier for the receiver to power the rest of the speakers. Thing is, with a receiver without preouts, such as the one you have, it will limit your choices greatly should you ever decide to upgrade the speakers.
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  • Tankman
    Tankman Posts: 419
    edited March 2013
    @mrmoeone...some really good tips from "cfrizz and Tonyb they are some of the best too get tips from really great people in my book!If you run into a teah problem? check out "f1nut or h9" they have help lots of people in here.Awesome guys with the help and they do know what they are talking about.
  • mrmoeone
    mrmoeone Posts: 12
    edited March 2013
    Thanks guys for the awesome info helped me out big time
  • amgala
    amgala Posts: 111
    edited March 2013
    Are there no amps that can take speaker level inputs and amplify them?
    Front Speakers: Polk Audio LSi15 x 2
    Center Speaker: Polk Audio LSiC
    Rear Speakers: Polk Audio LSiF/X x 2
    Subwoofers: Polk Audio PSW505 x 2
    AVR: Denon AVR-3313CI
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-5
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    edited March 2013
    Not really.....of any sort of quality anyway. Point is, at this juncture you really don't need to amplify them. If you find they are lacking some how, check the settings in the receiver. Check your speaker levels specifically, they may be set too low.

    Also, how big of a room is this setup in ? The tsi 200 and cs 1 center are for smallish rooms. Trying to fill a large room with small speakers will leave you wanting more.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • amgala
    amgala Posts: 111
    edited March 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    Not really.....of any sort of quality anyway. Point is, at this juncture you really don't need to amplify them. If you find they are lacking some how, check the settings in the receiver. Check your speaker levels specifically, they may be set too low.

    Also, how big of a room is this setup in ? The tsi 200 and cs 1 center are for smallish rooms. Trying to fill a large room with small speakers will leave you wanting more.

    I should have clarified that I'm not the OP, I just had a general question. Thanks for your reply!
    Front Speakers: Polk Audio LSi15 x 2
    Center Speaker: Polk Audio LSiC
    Rear Speakers: Polk Audio LSiF/X x 2
    Subwoofers: Polk Audio PSW505 x 2
    AVR: Denon AVR-3313CI
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-5
  • mrmoeone
    mrmoeone Posts: 12
    edited March 2013
    My room is about 20x12 rectangular shaped @ tonyb
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    edited March 2013
    amgala wrote: »
    I should have clarified that I'm not the OP, I just had a general question. Thanks for your reply!

    No man, my mistake. Forgot who was the OP.:lol:
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • Sidpaulino
    Sidpaulino Posts: 6
    edited March 2013
    Hi ! I need help! I am using a ADCOM 8502 to power Polk lsi 25 tower but my amp is over heating, I know the run hot but in order to not get the thermal alarm ,I am using fan in top of the amp! I am using 10 gauge monster cable! Any thoughts?
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,306
    edited March 2013
    If your "5802" I presume is well ventilated and your not running the amp/speakers wide open for long periods I would assume that your 5802 is in need for some updating/repair

    Would also recommend starting your own thread to get your question out there
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  • Sidpaulino
    Sidpaulino Posts: 6
    edited March 2013
    Thanks, sorry I just started using this forum!
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    edited March 2013
    No biggie Sid, if you look at the upper left when you click on a sub catagory you'll seen a tab that says "new thread". Click on that to start your own conversation going about a particular problem.

    Welcome to the forum btw.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's