Received the White Night Power 2m Power Cord as a Temp Replacement
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I am not that rich. But I was thinking about flying over there and meet Patrick. I would be honored. Want to shake hands and hug. He rocks. Loving my 2m cable.I gotta ask. If your spending 50k for your purchase, why not the extra 2 for a flight to pick them up in person ? Meet the maker and get the tour.
It looks I have someone (Patrick) who will take care of my cable needs in the future. He has also been very helpful answering my questions about audio. I will not look at Audioquest, Wireworld, Kimber, Nordost, or any other... they are overpriced for the performance you get. I have tried some pretty expensive cables from them before but wasn't that great.
cheezie -
Hey man...You must have a bigger Bong than him LOL
Smokin the hubbley bubbley:cheesygrin:
I think Loud & Clear is patronizing him...and I find it hilarious, especially when cheezy thanks him for his positive comments.
If I'm wrong, I'm going to have to agree with your assessment though.Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden -
I will not look at Audioquest, Wireworld, Kimber, Nordost, or any other... they are overpriced for the performance you get. I have tried some pretty expensive cables from them before but wasn't that great.
cheezie
But $20K-100K (Coconut Audio) cables are worth the money for the performance they present into $800 speakers run by a run of the mill HTPC playing compressed audio? I see, guess I've been going about this hobby all wrong for the past 30 years.
So glad you came along to open my eyes and soon my ears. Cheezy you are my audio hero :razz::idea:
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul! -
From what I heard, speakers and cables don't apply the same rule as far as price-to-performance is concerned. The cable from a given manufacturer, the performance goes up as the price goes up, and the bigger and longer it is, for better sound. But for speakers, you can't go bigger as it will have larger drivers and require more current. This creates more electrical noise and infest the audio components = worsen the sound. I learned this. Really good info.But $20K-100K (Coconut Audio) cables are worth the money for the performance they present into $800 speakers run by a run of the mill HTPC playing compressed audio? I see, guess I've been going about this hobby all wrong for the past 30 years.
So glad you came along to open my eyes and soon my ears. Cheezy you are my audio hero :razz::idea:
H9
This is the reason why I didn't go with a bigger pair of speakers. Originally I was going to use CMS40 for the super-expensive power cables, to use it as a tool to check sound. But the CMS65 to me, is a better platform to start with as it has plenty of room in the frequency response, and the sound is more mature. The power draw is not too bad either. I have listened to other loudspeakers that are used for HT but they don't sound as good (detail and accuracy).
CMS50 can be had for $1600. For CMS65, $2000+.
I have various formats of audio, lossy and lossless. But the sound largely depends on how well the recording was performed, not the bit rates. One of the examples would be lossless 24-bit 192 khz audio where people couldn't hear any difference over the lossless 16 bit 44.1k, and can't hear the difference over the 320kbps audio... People complain they sound too soft and heard no better details.
cheezie -
I am not that rich. But I was thinking about flying over there and meet Patrick. I would be honored. Want to shake hands and hug. He rocks. Loving my 2m cable.
It looks I have someone (Patrick) who will take care of my cable needs in the future. He has also been very helpful answering my questions about audio. I will not look at Audioquest, Wireworld, Kimber, Nordost, or any other... they are overpriced for the performance you get. I have tried some pretty expensive cables from them before but wasn't that great.
cheezie
If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money. -
oh my god just go away^^^^
please someone make it stop already.... -
From what I heard, speakers and cables don't apply the same rule as far as price-to-performance is concerned. The cable from a given manufacturer, the performance goes up as the price goes up, and the bigger and longer it is, for better sound. But for speakers, you can't go bigger as it will have larger drivers and require more current. This creates more electrical noise and infest the audio components = worsen the sound. I learned this. Really good info.
This is the reason why I didn't go with a bigger pair of speakers. Originally I was going to use CMS40 for the super-expensive power cables, to use it as a tool to check sound. But the CMS65 to me, is a better platform to start with as it has more room in the full spectrum of the frequencies, and the sound is more mature. I have listened to other loudspeakers used for HT but they don't sound as good (detail and accuracy).
CMS50 can be had for $1600. For CMS65, $2000+.
I have various formats of audio, lossy and lossless. But the sound partially depends on how well the recording was performed, not the bit rates. One of the examples would be lossless 24-bit 192 khz audio where people couldn't hear any difference over the lossless 16 bit 44.1k, and can't hear the difference over the 320kbps audio... People complain they sound too soft and heard no better details.
cheezie
So do they let you out in the yard for an hour a day for fresh air at that place you're in?Main Rig-Realistic AM/FM Record player 8 track boasting 4 WPC
Backup Rig-2 CH-Rogue Audio Zeus w/Factory Special Dark Mods,Joule-Electra 300ME Platinum Preamp,OPPO-105 w/Modwright Tube Mod, Auralic Aries G2.1,Polk 2.3TL,3.1TL's,Dreadnought,RTA-15TL's,1C's All Fully Modded,2xRTA-12c's ,Benchmark DAC3 HGC,Synology NAS,VPI Scout w/Dynavector DV-20XH and Rogue Audio Ares Phono Preamp,Sony PCM-R500 DAT,HHB-850 Pro CDR,Tascam CC-222SLMKII Cassette/CDR,MIT S3.3 Shotgun Cables,Shunyata Hyra-8,Shunyata and Triode Labs Power Cords
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So do they let you out in the yard for an hour a day for fresh air at that place you're in?
just my head hurts after reading his posts and his logic.
Just wow. Just really wow.
I think Patrick really does need to get a new hobby. Going to random forums trying to make people think his products are good is just getting old.
And no cheesie as you call yourself now or cheesy and you originally put your name, you really don't have much of a different writting style than Patrick, and you are as crazy as he is, so it's pretty easy to put two and two together. -
just my head hurts after reading his posts and his logic.
Just wow. Just really wow.
I think Patrick really does need to get a new hobby. Going to random forums trying to make people think his products are good is just getting old.
And no cheesie as you call yourself now or cheesy and you originally put your name, you really don't have much of a different writting style than Patrick, and you are as crazy as he is, so it's pretty easy to put two and two together.[/QUOTE
I noticed the name change too! No biggie,I like to randomly change the spelling of my name often!:eek:"Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for" -
Wow, haven't seen this much B.S. since the T-unit days, at least he was funny. Cheesey my good man, save your breath. You just keep diggin'your hole deeper with every post.
Here I thought our citizens were the only ones being dumbed down.HT SYSTEM-
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Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
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Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
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From what I heard, speakers and cables don't apply the same rule as far as price-to-performance is concerned. The cable from a given manufacturer, the performance goes up as the price goes up, and the bigger and longer it is, for better sound. But for speakers, you can't go bigger as it will have larger drivers and require more current. This creates more electrical noise and infest the audio components = worsen the sound. I learned this. Really good info.
This is the reason why I didn't go with a bigger pair of speakers. Originally I was going to use CMS40 for the super-expensive power cables, to use it as a tool to check sound. But the CMS65 to me, is a better platform to start with as it has plenty of room in the frequency response, and the sound is more mature. The power draw is not too bad either. I have listened to other loudspeakers that are used for HT but they don't sound as good (detail and accuracy).
CMS50 can be had for $1600. For CMS65, $2000+.
I have various formats of audio, lossy and lossless. But the sound largely depends on how well the recording was performed, not the bit rates. One of the examples would be lossless 24-bit 192 khz audio where people couldn't hear any difference over the lossless 16 bit 44.1k, and can't hear the difference over the 320kbps audio... People complain they sound too soft and heard no better details.
cheezie
Very well said and i couldn't agree more. A lot of people don't understand this, but then they've never heard power cables constructed of truly conductive properties (alien crystals, tree fibers, etc). Short of having this experience you're only familiar with veiled renderings and vague glimpses into the recordings. Like standing on the outside of a concert hall and hearing a muffled cello, a distant piccolo. Yet, for those with power cables in the 5k - 10k range, this passes for music. But if you want true music, real music, you're going to have to pay the price of admission. This isn't the '40s, folks; you're not going to get 3' of power cable, capable of producing true music for a paltry 4k. Fortunately, if you have the money, there are companies out there - like coconut audio - who possess the technology to provide cables, hangers, and proximity stones that will transport us onto the stages of our favorite performers.
Two Channel Setup:
Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
DAC: Arcam irDac
Source: iMac
Remote Control: iPad Mini
3.2 Home Theater Setup:
Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
Center: Klipsch RP-160M
Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
TV Source: DirecTV Genie -
Loud & Clear wrote: »Very well said and i couldn't agree more. A lot of people don't understand this, but then they've never heard power cables constructed of truly conductive properties (alien crystals, tree fibers, etc). Short of having this experience you're only familiar with veiled renderings and vague glimpses into the recordings. Like standing on the outside of a concert hall and hearing a muffled cello, a distant piccolo. Yet, for those with power cables in the 5k - 10k range, this passes for music. But if you want true music, real music, you're going to have to pay the price of admission. This isn't the '40s, folks; you're not going to get 3' of power cable, capable of producing true music for a paltry 4k. Fortunately, if you have the money, there are companies out there - like coconut audio - who possess the technology to provide cables, hangers, and proximity stones that will transport us onto the stages of our favorite performers.
Whoooa, dude.........you almost made me order one!
Whoa....oa!:eek:
Your good.
I was checking the balance on my imaginary Visa card!
My thoughts are, your better off with a good water bong.
It will improve the sound alot more than a simple power cable, just sayin'!:cheesygrin:
I feel like I am high everytime I see this thread bumped.
Sweeeeeet!:cheesygrin:Testing
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Don't worry Pepster you can use my imaginary Visa it has No Limit..
I've already ordered everything on the coconut site, :razz:ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables -
loud & clear wrote: »very well said and i couldn't agree more. A lot of people don't understand this, but then they've never heard power cables constructed of truly conductive properties (alien crystals, tree fibers, etc). Short of having this experience you're only familiar with veiled renderings and vague glimpses into the recordings. Like standing on the outside of a concert hall and hearing a muffled cello, a distant piccolo. Yet, for those with power cables in the 5k - 10k range, this passes for music. But if you want true music, real music, you're going to have to pay the price of admission. This isn't the '40s, folks; you're not going to get 3' of power cable, capable of producing true music for a paltry 4k. Fortunately, if you have the money, there are companies out there - like coconut audio - who possess the technology to provide cables, hangers, and proximity stones that will transport us onto the stages of our favorite performers.
alsoIf you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money. -
Those look like the Expensive Deluxe Mixed Nuts..
Which are Good Nuts.
Is that wrong to say I like nuts?
Because I really really do love Nuts..
Big and Salty are my Fav..ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables -
At least he's creative about getting to the magical 100 post mark :twisted:Main
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At least he's creative about getting to the magical 100 post mark :twisted:
In 2 threads nonetheless. I like **** too. Happy 200 to you as well!! -
I told you I'm not Patrick. Some guys at anandtech forum introduced him to me, saying I will get along good with Patrick. I then looked for his posts and found him! Patrick & Cheez = Love But we are two different people. If you check in my photos, that's mouse. Patrick doesn't live there. He lives in Sweden, and if you search around enough, you can see his place.just my head hurts after reading his posts and his logic.
Just wow. Just really wow.
I think Patrick really does need to get a new hobby. Going to random forums trying to make people think his products are good is just getting old.
cheezie sounds better... I wanted to sign up as cheez in this forum but that name was already taken.bobsauto49 wrote: »I noticed the name change too! No biggie,I like to randomly change the spelling of my name often!:eek:
I couldn't have said better. Lately I've been discovering more stuff out of my speaker since the plugged the White Night 2m cable.. the more songs I listen to, I'm hearing more interesting things. And it's sounding better and better.Loud & Clear wrote: »Very well said and i couldn't agree more. A lot of people don't understand this, but then they've never heard power cables constructed of truly conductive properties (alien crystals, tree fibers, etc). Short of having this experience you're only familiar with veiled renderings and vague glimpses into the recordings. Like standing on the outside of a concert hall and hearing a muffled cello, a distant piccolo. Yet, for those with power cables in the 5k - 10k range, this passes for music. But if you want true music, real music, you're going to have to pay the price of admission. This isn't the '40s, folks; you're not going to get 3' of power cable, capable of producing true music for a paltry 4k. Fortunately, if you have the money, there are companies out there - like coconut audio - who possess the technology to provide cables, hangers, and proximity stones that will transport us onto the stages of our favorite performers.
I like nuts. But I try to avoid salt...Those look like the Expensive Deluxe Mixed Nuts..
Which are Good Nuts.
Is that wrong to say I like nuts?
Because I really really do love Nuts..
Big and Salty are my Fav..
Ha ha mouse droppings.. that's hilarious. I don't own mice... those are the dead bugs. I don't know what you call them... I used to own hamsters, but that was a long time ago.I am still loving the tape on the wall and the mouse droppings on the floor in Cheezy's pictures. Fantastic.
cheezie -
The White Night Power 5M cable has landed United States of America, New York customs!
c'mon c'mon work fast
cheezie -
!!!!!!! Wow!!
Two Channel Setup:
Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
DAC: Arcam irDac
Source: iMac
Remote Control: iPad Mini
3.2 Home Theater Setup:
Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
Center: Klipsch RP-160M
Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
TV Source: DirecTV Genie -
Yea I know he is but I like playing dumb for the sarcasm
I think Loud & Clear is patronizing him...and I find it hilarious, especially when cheezy thanks him for his positive comments.
If I'm wrong, I'm going to have to agree with your assessment though.POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
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+1 on the water bong idea. And pepster is a true cable maker. Stay high my friend.Whoooa, dude.........you almost made me order one!
Whoa....oa!:eek:
Your good.
I was checking the balance on my imaginary Visa card!
My thoughts are, your better off with a good water bong.
It will improve the sound alot more than a simple power cable, just sayin'!:cheesygrin:
I feel like I am high everytime I see this thread bumped.
Sweeeeeet!:cheesygrin: -
It's out of customs..
C'mon move move.
:mad:
cheezie -
It's like a vampire...it just won't die...
There isn't much point in trolling if the thread is abandoned.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Just let it go man you gave it your best :rolleyes:
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whats with the playdough at the end of the cords? And one last ?????
WHY????? -
According to Patrick,whats with the playdough at the end of the cords? And one last ?????
WHY?????This fully protects the conductors against oxidation. It also prevents any conductors from coming loose when repeatedly bending the cable near the joint, something that is a common problem with solid core cables.
Besides, I like the looks of the playdough. Believe it or not, that is part of the reason why I wanted this cable even more... Some other top end manufacturers use playdough on cables as well. Check out Synergistic Research.
The last pic is vampire bat.
Update on shipping, it's at postal office in my city as of now. I'm hoping I will receive it today? or tomorrow?:redface:
cheezie -
Guys, I received the White Night Power 5M cable. Here is a video of opening the package:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvxQQPuRWAs
Enjoy
cheezy -
There's 7 1/2 min of my life I'll never get back....
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