Large or Small?!
ScottyDugs
Posts: 91
Im sure this has been talked about hundreds of times but I cant seem to understand the speakers large or small setting...If its large will it play louder and vice versa...Does it matter how big your actual speakers are and if so does it hurt if they are small sized and you set large...or also, does it mess with crossovers or phasing or other technical crap I know nothing about ha :redface:
my setup
avr: Denon 1913
center: polk cs350ls
sub: polk psw300
main l/r: polk ls90
rear surrounds: ls/fx
my setup
avr: Denon 1913
center: polk cs350ls
sub: polk psw300
main l/r: polk ls90
rear surrounds: ls/fx
My SETUP
AVR: Denon 1913
Main L/R: Polk LS90's
Center: Polk CS350LS
Side Surrounds: Polk LS/FX's
Rear Surrounds: Polk RT/FX's
Subwoofer: Polk PSW300
100% Cinematic Adventures, 0% Music
AVR: Denon 1913
Main L/R: Polk LS90's
Center: Polk CS350LS
Side Surrounds: Polk LS/FX's
Rear Surrounds: Polk RT/FX's
Subwoofer: Polk PSW300
100% Cinematic Adventures, 0% Music
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Large simply means the speaker receive low freq info, all of it. Low freq needs more power to drive those speakers. Also, in general, a smaller speaker has problems producing lower freq sounds than a larger speaker. So the powered sub was invented. Save money on full range speakers, and uses less power than if an AVR powered it
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so best to keep mains large and center and surrounds small to let my sub do the work?My SETUP
AVR: Denon 1913
Main L/R: Polk LS90's
Center: Polk CS350LS
Side Surrounds: Polk LS/FX's
Rear Surrounds: Polk RT/FX's
Subwoofer: Polk PSW300
100% Cinematic Adventures, 0% Music -
No. Set them all to small and let your sub do what it was born to do.My humble setup...
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goofyGAguy wrote: »No. Set them all to small and let your sub do what it was born to do.
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Gonna have to disagree with you gents. The PSW 300 sub and the LS90's....I dunno man, the speakers can do some good bass on their own, maybe even better musically than that sub.
If your receiver allows you to set them to large + the sub, I would try it that way and crossover set fairly low around 40-50 ish so that the sub only hits the lowest of notes. I know standard fair is set to small and 80 for the crossover, but thats not written in stone and you have to play around a bit with the settings to see what works for your ears in your room.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Gonna have to disagree with you gents. The PSW 300 sub and the LS90's....I dunno man, the speakers can do some good bass on their own, maybe even better musically than that sub.
If your receiver allows you to set them to large + the sub, I would try it that way and crossover set fairly low around 40-50 ish so that the sub only hits the lowest of notes. I know standard fair is set to small and 80 for the crossover, but thats not written in stone and you have to play around a bit with the settings to see what works for your ears in your room.
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Thanks I will try that later today...I will test both suggestionsMy SETUP
AVR: Denon 1913
Main L/R: Polk LS90's
Center: Polk CS350LS
Side Surrounds: Polk LS/FX's
Rear Surrounds: Polk RT/FX's
Subwoofer: Polk PSW300
100% Cinematic Adventures, 0% Music -
...If your receiver allows you to set them to large + the sub, I would try it that way and crossover set fairly low around 40-50 ish so that the sub only hits the lowest of notes.
My avr subwoofer mode setting says either LFE or LFE+Main...is this what you mean?...for setting LFE it says it plays low range and lfe signals of small channels and for LFE+Main it says it plays low range and lfe signals of all channels...which do I do for what you said, Tonyb? (I have my fronts set large and everything else small)My SETUP
AVR: Denon 1913
Main L/R: Polk LS90's
Center: Polk CS350LS
Side Surrounds: Polk LS/FX's
Rear Surrounds: Polk RT/FX's
Subwoofer: Polk PSW300
100% Cinematic Adventures, 0% Music -
Gonna have to disagree with you gents. The PSW 300 sub and the LS90's....I dunno man, the speakers can do some good bass on their own, maybe even better musically than that sub.
If your receiver allows you to set them to large + the sub, I would try it that way and crossover set fairly low around 40-50 ish so that the sub only hits the lowest of notes. I know standard fair is set to small and 80 for the crossover, but thats not written in stone and you have to play around a bit with the settings to see what works for your ears in your room.
+1. The easy way is to set it to small with crossover at 80. I would get used to the sound at this setting and then try Tony's suggestion for fine tuning and your preference in SQ._____________________________________________________________________________________________
Ethernet Filter: GigaFOILv4 with Keces P3 LPS
Source: Roon via ethernet to DAC interface
DAC: Bricasti M1SE
Pre/Pro: Marantz AV8805
Tube Preamp Buffer: Tortuga TPB.V1
Amp1: Nord One NC1200DM Signature, Amp2: W4S MC-5, AMP3: W4S MMC-7
Front: Salk SoundScape 8's, Center: Salk SoundScape C7
Surround: Polk FXIA6, Surround Back: Polk RTIA9, Atmos: Polk 70-RT
Subs: 2 - Rythmik F25's
IC & Speaker Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Signal Cable
Power Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, PS Audio
Room Treatments: GIK Acoustics -
+1?...is that your way of saying LPE+Main?...My SETUP
AVR: Denon 1913
Main L/R: Polk LS90's
Center: Polk CS350LS
Side Surrounds: Polk LS/FX's
Rear Surrounds: Polk RT/FX's
Subwoofer: Polk PSW300
100% Cinematic Adventures, 0% Music -
ScottyDugs wrote: »+1?...is that your way of saying LPE+Main?...
Yes. But only your ears and room will tell you which setting you prefer. Pick a few songs and a couple of movie scenes (if your set-up is for HT and music) and listen to it both ways. Then decide which sounds better to you. If you like it, keep the setting. If it sounds good but you'd still like it a little better, keep tweaking the settings, speaker placement, etc._____________________________________________________________________________________________
Ethernet Filter: GigaFOILv4 with Keces P3 LPS
Source: Roon via ethernet to DAC interface
DAC: Bricasti M1SE
Pre/Pro: Marantz AV8805
Tube Preamp Buffer: Tortuga TPB.V1
Amp1: Nord One NC1200DM Signature, Amp2: W4S MC-5, AMP3: W4S MMC-7
Front: Salk SoundScape 8's, Center: Salk SoundScape C7
Surround: Polk FXIA6, Surround Back: Polk RTIA9, Atmos: Polk 70-RT
Subs: 2 - Rythmik F25's
IC & Speaker Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Signal Cable
Power Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, PS Audio
Room Treatments: GIK Acoustics -
ok yea im 100% moviesMy SETUP
AVR: Denon 1913
Main L/R: Polk LS90's
Center: Polk CS350LS
Side Surrounds: Polk LS/FX's
Rear Surrounds: Polk RT/FX's
Subwoofer: Polk PSW300
100% Cinematic Adventures, 0% Music -
ScottyDugs wrote: »ok yea im 100% movies
I believe that will make it easier then if your only focusing on movies and not both. Good luck. Remeber these are only suggestions. Everyones systems, rooms, ears and preferences are different. You'll have to decide what setting you prefer._____________________________________________________________________________________________
Ethernet Filter: GigaFOILv4 with Keces P3 LPS
Source: Roon via ethernet to DAC interface
DAC: Bricasti M1SE
Pre/Pro: Marantz AV8805
Tube Preamp Buffer: Tortuga TPB.V1
Amp1: Nord One NC1200DM Signature, Amp2: W4S MC-5, AMP3: W4S MMC-7
Front: Salk SoundScape 8's, Center: Salk SoundScape C7
Surround: Polk FXIA6, Surround Back: Polk RTIA9, Atmos: Polk 70-RT
Subs: 2 - Rythmik F25's
IC & Speaker Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Signal Cable
Power Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, PS Audio
Room Treatments: GIK Acoustics -
Ok...it seems to be good like this...lfe+main, sub crossover at 80hz(lowest it will go), main large@60hz, center small@80hz, surrounds small@120hz...i know its personal preference but if you see a definite no-no with this setup let me know...thanksMy SETUP
AVR: Denon 1913
Main L/R: Polk LS90's
Center: Polk CS350LS
Side Surrounds: Polk LS/FX's
Rear Surrounds: Polk RT/FX's
Subwoofer: Polk PSW300
100% Cinematic Adventures, 0% Music