Infinity or Legacy Audio

KLapinas
KLapinas Posts: 608
edited April 2013 in Speakers
I don't know what to do...

I am interested in buying a pair of Legacy Signature III but have not heard them yet as they are a couple of hours away. I have heard their bigger brother Focus 2020s and did like them, but those were a bit more and now no longer available.

I currently have a fair selection of speakers that either need rebuilt or that I am looking to sell. The one set that I am unsure about is a very nice set of Infinity Kappa 8s. The only issue is crossover related. The front tweeter on one does not play. It does work and the issue is somewhere in the crossover. I temporarily switched the rear and and front tweeters so that I could actuall hear the set with front tweeters palying and they do sound good. I am not sure of the difference between the front and rear tweeters...crossover point, level...

So my dilemma: Do I pass on the Legacy Sigs and focus on getting the Kappas playing 100%, or buy the Legacy Sigs and sell the Kappas as is, or buy the Legacy Sigs and keep the Kappas and hope the wife doesn't find out?
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited March 2013
    Not sure i understand the post. I "assume" you already have the Infinity Kappa's.....you took the back tweeter put it in the front..now the front tweeter works...why would you think the cross-over has a problem, rather then just a front blown tweeter???
  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    Not sure i understand the post. I "assume" you already have the Infinity Kappa's.....you took the back tweeter put it in the front..now the front tweeter works...why would you think the cross-over has a problem, rather then just a front blown tweeter???

    Sorry if I was not clear. I do own the Kappa8s already. Both tweeters are ok but I don't get anything from thefront tweeter. I actually switched the wiring back to fron and fron to back so that the signal that would go to the rear tweeter is actually coming from the front baffle now and there is no output to he rear tweeter.
  • adb3da
    adb3da Posts: 507
    edited March 2013
    This is easy, buy Legacy and keep the Kappas too :)
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,604
    edited March 2013
    This is easy, buy Legacy and keep the Kappas too :)

    I agree! It would be very very hard for me to let go of Kappa's!
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited March 2013
    I would follow the cable all the way down to the X over from the speaker that dose not work. If the back tweeter works an the front dose not..not sure it's the X over. You could have cable problem..not an X over problem
  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    This is easy, buy Legacy and keep the Kappas too :)

    If only it was that easy. I guess I should check my lottery tix.
  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    I would follow the cable all the way down to the X over from the speaker that dose not work. If the back tweeter works an the front dose not..not sure it's the X over. You could have cable problem..not an X over problem

    These are known for crossover failure at this age.
  • SSAudio1
    SSAudio1 Posts: 7
    edited March 2013
    Sounds like a crossover failure on the Infinity.
    The older Legacy Signature III will move a lot more air than the Infinity, while still remaining tight and defined.

    If you can, check out the newer Legacy Signature SE- it gets even better!
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,002
    edited March 2013
    This is easy, buy Legacy and keep the Kappas too :)

    This^^^....throw the Kappas in a closet somewhere and she'll forget all about them. The sigs are nice, grab 'em.
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  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    What is a fair price for the Sigs?
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,002
    edited March 2013
    How old are they ? What color ? What condition ?
    On my Focus 20/20's, the ribbon mahogany was a 500 buck extra. I didn't pay that, but that was the going rate at the time.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    How old are they ? What color ? What condition ?
    On my Focus 20/20's, the ribbon mahogany was a 500 buck extra. I didn't pay that, but that was the going rate at the time.

    They are ribbon mahogany. From the pictures I saw there is only a small blem on the side of one speaker. I don't know the exact age.
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2013
    Remember both sets of speakers if I'm not mistaken are 4 ohm and will dip down below that. Make sure your amp is 2-4 ohm capable to be safe.

    If it was the Kappa 9, I would say it was more of a fair fight between the Sig III and kappa 9 but the 9 and the sigIII to me isn't a fair fight. The legacy I think will dig a little deeper on the low end ( due to 3 10 " woofers) and might be clearer in the midrange.

    If it was me, and I had to choose between them, I would choose the legacy. Even for maintenance, isn't the infinity foam where the legacy is rubber?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,002
    edited March 2013
    Without the age it's kinda hard to tell their worth. Normally anywhere in the 1000-1500 range if they are taken care of.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    erniejade wrote: »
    Remember both sets of speakers if I'm not mistaken are 4 ohm and will dip down below that. Make sure your amp is 2-4 ohm capable to be safe.

    If it was the Kappa 9, I would say it was more of a fair fight between the Sig III and kappa 9 but the 9 and the sigIII to me isn't a fair fight. The legacy I think will dig a little deeper on the low end ( due to 3 10 " woofers) and might be clearer in the midrange.

    If it was me, and I had to choose between them, I would choose the legacy. Even for maintenance, isn't the infinity foam where the legacy is rubber?

    I have the 8's not the 9's.

    I have an Aragon 4004 MKII, no worries with the amp, 1 ohm stable.
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2013
    Right sorry for the mistype the 9 and the legacy is a more fair fight. the legacy and the 8 to me is not a fair fight. Sorry about that.
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  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    erniejade wrote: »
    Right sorry for the mistype the 9 and the legacy is a more fair fight. the legacy and the 8 to me is not a fair fight. Sorry about that.

    No Problem.
  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    Without the age it's kinda hard to tell their worth. Normally anywhere in the 1000-1500 range if they are taken care of.

    Legacy audio said that the speakers were mfg in 2003
  • xsmi
    xsmi Posts: 1,798
    edited March 2013
    I don't know if this helps and don't know what the price your seller is asking but here's a pair on the 'gon right now.

    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-legacy-audio-signature-iii-full-range-speakers-2013-03-13-speakers-19808-marshallton-de
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2013
    Thats not a bad price. Great speaker for the money
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  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited March 2013
    xsmi wrote: »
    I don't know if this helps and don't know what the price your seller is asking but here's a pair on the 'gon right now.

    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-legacy-audio-signature-iii-full-range-speakers-2013-03-13-speakers-19808-marshallton-de

    Shhhhhhhh! Those are the ones i am looking at
  • xsmi
    xsmi Posts: 1,798
    edited March 2013
    Oooopppppssss!
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  • KLapinas
    KLapinas Posts: 608
    edited April 2013
    Well I missed out on these. I offered a cash deal and the seller wouldn't even respond. Then he sold them for less than we originally agreed on.

    Looking at a pair of Legacy Audio Classics now. Anyone have any time with these?