KT-120's & my Cronus Magnum

charley95
charley95 Posts: 908
edited March 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
I'm getting ready to upgrade my KT-90's to the 120's in my Rogue. So far it appears that Tung-Sol is the only maker of these. I just spoke with Rogue and they stated I would probably like the upgrade so, I'm gonna bite.

Where are you guys buying your tubes other than flea-bay? I thought there was a guy in the Chicago land area who sells a lot of N.O.S. stuff but I can't remember what his website was called. Any thoughts would help.

Thanks
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,443
    edited March 2013
  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
    I'm gonna have to go with height extenders for now till I figure out how to get the amp cover opening holes enlarged or buy the enlarged cover from Rogue. I'm pretty blind when it comes to this stuff. How do I know which extenders to buy for the 120 tube?
  • larry777
    larry777 Posts: 480
    edited March 2013
    charley95 wrote: »
    I'm getting ready to upgrade my KT-90's to the 120's in my Rogue. So far it appears that Tung-Sol is the only maker of these. I just spoke with Rogue and they stated that I would probably like the upgrade so, I'm gonna bite.

    Its interesting to see that Rogue is saying a person would probably like the upgrade from a New Production KT-120 tube !
    I've read comments on this Forum where some people think new production tubes aren't very good.....especially compared to NOS. Tung-Sol as we know also makes various tubes of different sizes at fairly low prices. You would think that whatever quality Tung-Sol produces should follow through to these other tubes as well....No ?
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited March 2013
    charley95 wrote: »
    I'm getting ready to upgrade my KT-90's to the 120's in my Rogue. So far it appears that Tung-Sol is the only maker of these. I just spoke with Rogue and they stated I would probably like the upgrade so, I'm gonna bite.

    Where are you guys buying your tubes other than flea-bay? I thought there was a guy in the Chicago land area who sells a lot of N.O.S. stuff but I can't remember what his website was called. Any thoughts would help.

    Thanks


    I bought mine from Rogue direct.They test match and burn-in the tubes so they are ready to go when they arrive.
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  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
    I forgot to ask Rogue how much for a matched quad. Larry, the previous factory issue was the KT-90 which I have now. Factory issues are now the 120. I'm assuming they must like the 120's vs. the 90's. thetubestore.com is getting $200 for a matched quad shipped.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,443
    edited March 2013
    charley95 wrote: »
    . thetubestore.com is getting $200 for a matched quad shipped.

    from what i seen that isn't to bad
  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    edited March 2013
    I bought a quad from this seller before and the tubes seemed to be excellent

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/150984436876?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2013
    Its interesting to see that Rogue is saying a person would probably like the upgrade from a New Production KT-120 tube !
    I've read comments on this Forum where some people think new production tubes aren't very good.....especially compared to NOS. Tung-Sol as we know also makes various tubes of different sizes at fairly low prices. You would think that whatever quality Tung-Sol produces should follow through to these other tubes as well....No ?[/QUOTE]

    Depends on the tube, not aware of the KT-120 being made before these Tung SOls. Personally I will take the Treasure CV-181 over any 6SN7 I have heard so far and i have listened to and own many. Additionally the Treasure KT88 and 6CA7 are outstanding tubes and IMO rival most NOS.

    When you get to the minatures Its a different game, again IMO.

    It cost to play and find out. In some cases you can let others opinions make up your mind for you or you can play and find out for yourself and be surprised in most cases that you disagree with some of those opinions.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited March 2013
    I believe $185 plus shipping is what i paid for a quad.
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    I’M OFFENDED!!!!
  • larry777
    larry777 Posts: 480
    edited March 2013
    charley95 wrote: »
    I forgot to ask Rogue how much for a matched quad. Larry, the previous factory issue was the KT-90 which I have now. Factory issues are now the 120. I'm assuming they must like the 120's vs. the 90's. thetubestore.com is getting $200 for a matched quad shipped.

    Yes I see that. And that's a good price for a Matched Quad compared to some pricing on lets say Kt-88's from other makers ( Northern Electric for one )
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  • larry777
    larry777 Posts: 480
    edited March 2013
    (QUOTE)
    Depends on the tube, not aware of the KT-120 being made before these Tung SOls. Personally I will take the Treasure CV-181 over any 6SN7 I have heard so far and i have listened to and own many. Additionally the Treasure KT88 and 6CA7 are outstanding tubes and IMO rival most NOS.

    I do understand this....and that's good news if you ask me. New production tubes with this reputation.
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    RTi4 Surrounds
    SVS PB-12 Sub


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    Arcam CD-192 Disc Player
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  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    from what i seen that isn't to bad
    I'm probably going to order from them tonight!
  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
    brianle wrote: »
    I bought a quad from this seller before and the tubes seemed to be excellent

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/150984436876?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    I noticed those. I'm a little gun to buy on the bay. I don't do paypal and the last time I bought tubes on there my credit card was comprimised in the same state. Someone in Arizona charged $1100 on my card number. I had the credit protection at my credit union so I didn't get nailed.
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited March 2013
    charley95 wrote: »
    I'm gonna have to go with height extenders for now till I figure out how to get the amp cover opening holes enlarged or buy the enlarged cover from Rogue. I'm pretty blind when it comes to this stuff. How do I know which extenders to buy for the 120 tube?

    Give these guys a call, I bet they can fix ya right up. http://www.vacuumtubesinc.com/Products/SocketsAdaptersParts/NewManufactureTubeSockets.aspx
  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013

    I'll call tomorrow. Thanks Mike
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    edited March 2013
    Call New Sensor directly. It ws two years ago now, but I got all 12 of my Kt120's for 300 and change...
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited March 2013
    Call New Sensor directly. It ws two years ago now, but I got all 12 of my Kt120's for 300 and change...

    12 for $300? I hate you!
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    I’M OFFENDED!!!!
  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
    Call New Sensor directly. It ws two years ago now, but I got all 12 of my Kt120's for 300 and change...

    The site shows they are $80 each. I'll call and see what they have to say. Thanks John
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    edited March 2013
    They gave me case pricing now that I think of it. I ordered som for Bob to play with and for a friend as well. I need 12 more and there may be others here wanting to try them as well.

    Let's try to set up a group by on them and maybe we can get better pricing that way.
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  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
    They gave me case pricing now that I think of it. I ordered som for Bob to play with and for a friend as well. I need 12 more and there may be others here wanting to try them as well.

    Let's try to set up a group by on them and maybe we can get better pricing that way.

    Sounds good to me Jonh. You need 12,4 for me. Is a case 12 or 24? If we can get anyone else here that needs some then, lets do it.
    I can send you the cash or however you want to do it? I would say that anyone here that wants them we should keep this post going and see if we can get enough for case pricing. Sound ok to you?
  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited March 2013
    If the price is right i'll get another 4 spares.
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    I’M OFFENDED!!!!
  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
    Ok, so we're at 20 now if the price is right of course.
  • charley95
    charley95 Posts: 908
    edited March 2013
    brgman wrote: »
    If the price is right i'll get another 4 spares.

    This deal didn't work out. I ordered a quad from Jim Mcshane for $189.50 delivered to my door.
  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited March 2013
    No problem.dont need em unless they're a steal right now
    Thanks
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    I’M OFFENDED!!!!