What are these?

bored184
bored184 Posts: 324
edited March 2013 in Vintage Speakers
http://louisville.craigslist.org/ele/3668467897.html

The add says RTA 12Bs but they do not look like my RTA11TL's. I have seen some strange speakers but nothing that looks like these. I would be temped because they appear to have the peerless tweeter and I want to add something to my collection of polks with the famous peerless tweeter.

P.S: If the craigslist add nullifies this thread then please delete. I want to follow the rules. I figured it would be easier just posting the link with the photo then trying to copy and save the photo.
Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2013
    They are as the ad describes.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • bored184
    bored184 Posts: 324
    edited March 2013
    heiney9 wrote: »
    They are as the ad describes.
    IT was the RTA description that got me confused. I am not polk expect but I thought there was only the RTA 8, 11, and 15. I guess I need to google more.
    Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
    Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
    Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2013
    RTA 12 is a TRUE Real Time Alignment, where as the other RTA's use a D'Appolito array which is still excellent but not truly time aligned.

    http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/dappolito/

    http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/time-aligned/

    http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/time-alignment/

    The above links should help decipher

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • pglbook
    pglbook Posts: 2,222
    edited March 2013
    Yes, those are RTA 12Bs. The price, as others have noted, is on the high end but they do not appear for sale as often as some other models. They are great sounding speakers and they look to be in nice shape, although they are misssing the top hat. Why not use that as a negotiating tool and try to get the seller down to the $150-$175 price range? That is the more realistic value. However, in the end, price is what you are able and willing to pay. If you can afford them and they are in excellent working condition, you really cannot go wrong.
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  • michael1947
    michael1947 Posts: 775
    edited March 2013
    On the Rosewood cases...is it vinyl veneer or wood veneer? anyone know. I have vinyl veneer on my Studio Monitor 10's and it is not happiness to my eyes.
    Main Family Room: Sony 46 LCD, Sony Blue Ray, Sony DVD/VCR combo,Onkyo TXNR 708, Parasound 5250,
    Polk SDS-SRS with mods, CSI 5 center + Klipsch SC2, Polk RT2000P rears, Klipsch KG 1.5's sides, Polk Micro Pro 1000, Polk Micro Pro 2000, Polk SW505, Belkin PF60, Signal Cable Classics,Monster IC's, 2 15 amp circuits & 1 20 amp circuit.

    Living Room: Belkin PF60, Parasound HCA2200, MIT ProlineEXP balanced IC's,Emotiva XDA-1 DAC/Pre,Emotiva ERC2 transport,MIT AVT2, Polk LSI 9's.
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  • bored184
    bored184 Posts: 324
    edited March 2013
    If given the opportunity for 150.00 I would probably pick them up, its about 3hrs south for me but it would be a great excuse to hit up the bass pro. How ever with a set of SDA 1C's and RTA 11TL's and monitor 10s I cant really justify another set of speakers. I just thought they looked odd and thought I would get some more info on them.
    Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
    Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
    Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited March 2013
    I used to own a set of these. They are excellent speakers. I actually prefered them with vocals and acoustic instrumentals over the SDA-1Cs I owned at the time. I liked the 1Cs better overall, but they were closer than what you might think. Actually $250 is not a bad price for as good of shape they appear to be in. I would still try to get him down to around $200ish.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited March 2013
    Those are one excelent pair of speakers. Dont pass on them over 50/100 bucks. Doubt u can buy better for 300.00 other than 12c's
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited March 2013
    I own a pair of these and they are great speakers. I prefer them much more to the 1C's. Tonal characteristics closer to the SDA2A/B's. Price is too high especially without the top hats. But as I have said many times the true value is up to the buyer and seller.
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


    Monitor 5Jr, Monitor 5, RTA12, RTA 15TL, SDA 2A, 1c, SRS 2, 1.2TL, CRS, Atrium.
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  • bored184
    bored184 Posts: 324
    edited March 2013
    Well you all twisted my arm to contact the seller :cheesygrin:. How would these compare to my SDA 1C's, Monitor 10C's, and RTA 11TLs. If I got these something in this lineup would have to go. I am running out of room and money rather fast here. Plus the wife is not happy with all my speakers all ready.

    PS. These appear to be just RTA 12s, not the 12B. Does that make a difference? They look like they have the peerless tweeter.
    Speakers: TL Monitor 10s, RTA 11TLs, Fortes, Thiel CS 1.2
    Amplifiers: ]Ashly FTX 2001 III, Dynaco ST-70, DIY F6
    Pre: Adcom GFP 750, Aikido Tube Pre
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