sda 1A'S. ???

soundfreak1

Where do these rank on the sda line and how moddable are they
these im looking at ( this saturday) have the sl-2000 tweets, can i go all the way to 198's or just the 194's??

F1nut

Low. You can mod just about anything. Just the RD0194-1.

soundfreak1

Thanks f-1, would they be a step up from the RTA12c's??

PolkieMan

I think yes since they are about the same size and these are SDA speakers, Have you ever heard properly set-up SDA speakers?

soundfreak1 wrote: »

Thanks f-1, would they be a step up from the RTA12c's??

soundfreak1

Heard a pair of 2b's, but was not impressed.

heiney9

soundfreak1 wrote: »

Heard a pair of 2b's, but was not impressed.

That's a pretty general statement care to add a few more sentences about the set-up and how you came to your conclusion. If you were unimpressed by the 2b's then don't bother with the 1A's

H9

Mr. Bubbles

I agree with H-9 here. The 2B's are some of the best I've heard. I also have the RTA 12's and like those as well, but not nearly as much as the 2A's that I have, or 2B's that I have heard. My guess would be that there may have been something wrong with the 2B's you heard or they may not have been set up properly. Either way, good luck on what you decide.

chandler9a

I agree with those above. Sure, if you set the sda's up wrong and have less than adequate equipment, you more than likely will not be impressed. Now, if they are set up properly and in the right room with the right gear and you still don't like them, that's fine, they aren't for you. But I would venture to guess that properly set up, you would be more than impressed with the 2B's.

bored184

chandler9a wrote: »

I agree with those above. Sure, if you set the sda's up wrong and have less than adequate equipment, you more than likely will not be impressed. Now, if they are set up properly and in the right room with the right gear and you still don't like them, that's fine, they aren't for you. But I would venture to guess that properly set up, you would be more than impressed with the 2B's.

I have to agree. I had a Kenwood 7100 (60wpc) hooked up to my 1Cs for a while and wasnt really all the impressed, I actually was a little discouraged. After doing some research I invested in a carver tfm-25 (225wpc) and was shocked at the difference. These are now by far my favorite set of speakers.

soundfreak1

Well if u look at my sig u can see the equip. used ( main rig) the 2 b drivers all checked out fine they just didnt do what the rta12c's do for me. Possible issues of old caps but the rta are original as well, dont think that was it however kust not for me i guess. So if the 1's are not supperior to the 2b's i agree i will pass on them.

heiney9

If the 2b didn't blow your skirt up don't even go look at the 1a's.

tophatjohnny

Had the 2B's and they were great. bought them from a forum member. The 1B's I now have are way more musical and full, even before I upgraded the tweets and Larry rings and dynamat. Now.....well kinda thinking I'll never part with my 1B's/ Love em. I'd say, get them, do the mods as you can and you will love em too!! You know what to do bro!

heiney9

1A's are a lot different than 1B's.

bigaltx24

I've only heard 1As one time, they didn't impress me. They use the tweeters in the SDA circuit and it just doesn't sound right. I'd pass on them.

F1nut

soundfreak1 wrote: »

Thanks f-1, would they be a step up from the RTA12c's??

IMO, the 1A's would not be a step up or down, just different. That said and like the others stated, if you didn't like the 2B's you will not like the 1A's because the 2B's are much better.

soundfreak1

Damn, hoped i could get into the "SDA" sound and like it. Guess i will have to go up the "ladder" a bit higher. I just didnt fund the 2b as detailed and dynamic as the rta12c's. So what SDA do i need to go to for a "step up" from the rta12c's?

heiney9

That's a bit strange as the drivers are similar as is the PR and cabinet volume for both the 2B's and RTA 12C. Did you use the same gear and listening room for both?

Look for 1C's, SRS2's, 2.3's, 3.1's

tophatjohnny

heiney9 wrote: »

1A's are a lot different than 1B's.

I didn't know that. I just like all the SDA's I have heard.

heiney9

Nothing wrong with that, just realize as SDA progressed it really improved. 4th and 5th generation SDA's are a BIG improvement over the earlier SDA's. Early SDA's, like 1A's, have dimensional tweeters which are side by side, not the best IMO and many others.

H9

TennMan

soundfreak1 wrote: »

Damn, hoped i could get into the "SDA" sound and like it. Guess i will have to go up the "ladder" a bit higher. I just didnt fund the 2b as detailed and dynamic as the rta12c's. So what SDA do i need to go to for a "step up" from the rta12c's?

Don 't mean to start a firestorm here but have you considered using SDA crossovers and MWs (from 2b or CRS+) in your 12 Cs? You might get the best of both worlds.

Mr. Bubbles

soundfreak1 wrote: »

Damn, hoped i could get into the "SDA" sound and like it. Guess i will have to go up the "ladder" a bit higher. I just didnt fund the 2b as detailed and dynamic as the rta12c's. So what SDA do i need to go to for a "step up" from the rta12c's?

Echoing some of what H-9 said agfain; the basic system of the 12's and sda 2b's is similar. The major difference will be the SDA effect. I own both the sda2A's and RTA12's (not sure which ones currently) when the 2A's were still stock and compared to the 12's their tonal range and dynamics were very similar, once i fixed the problem with the interconnect cable. before then the 12's were not only louder but had a fuller sound because I was missing some midbass/ mid in the 2A's once fixed there was little difference other thasn the dimensional effect. Tghe 2A's have only gotten better with mods. I am sure the 12's will too one day. I also own 1C's, SRS's, and 1.2TL's, and personally prefer the tonal characterisitcs of the 2A's better than any of the others. The 2B's I have heard sonded slightly better than my 2A's, but only slightly. To my ears the 1 series is the weakest of the line. Many others disagree with that however. My main point is that My preference of ownership is the 1.2TL's but if I were blind and had never felt or touched any of these unly listened to on the same gear oin the same setup, I would choose the 2A's/B's over any of the others. But since this contradicts what manybothers think, it shows that preference is very much subjective. Just listen to any of them you can and decide for yourself. Get suggestions but don't take them as set in stone.

A good point for this is like when I was still fairly new to the SDA's I first found the 2A's and they were great. After reqading on here how most guys raved about the 1C's I thought hey, they have got to be awesome and much better than the 2A's. I looked hard for a pair and got them. Man was I dissapointed! To me the sound went backwards. SDA effect the same but dynamic range narrowed a good bit to my ears. I eventually sold that pair of 1C's and while not really looking ran across another pair not too long ago. I thougth they are cheap enough I'll try them to be sure (could have been something wrong with the others that I could never find). This pair sound very much the same as the first. This to my ears goes against what the majority of the guys hear think about these. So once agin be your own judge and good luck.

Oh yea like H-9 said the 1A's are different than most others with the dimensional tweet. Not the best design, even if you like the 1 series.