Interesting use for Reel to Reel's - MHardy you may not want to look hehe
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TECHNO!!!
http://gizmodo.com/5988721/old-reel+to+reel-tape-recorders-put-to-innovative-use-techno
Old Reel-to-Reel Tape Recorders Put to Innovative Use: Techno
Reel-to-reel tape machines are hugely outdated these days. Justifiable reasons to use them are dwindling. Unless you are like Wouter van Veldhoven, in which case you are a tape-machine wielding musical genius.
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http://youtu.be/zHBS39_m4oI[/video]
The above 14-minute jam demonstrates four different tape recorder techniques that van Veldhoven uses to make what he calls "minimal techno". It's hard to tell exactly how it's all wired together, but what you've got are a bunch of machines working together as a massive sampler and effects machine. It's hugely impressive.
The coolest part of the whole system, is the automated relay/reverse he hacked together to get around the limitations of tape. Reversed delays are a common element in music these days, but you can't do it in real-time with tape like you can with loops and delays. It's basically impossible.
With digital delay systems, you can grab a sample and flip it instantly. With tape, you would need to cut the sample, flip it, reinsert it, and wind it back. Which in the studio, whatever, but it isn't really feasible in a live setting. Van Veldhoven creatively uses two machines to simulate the effect. Not bad for what most people would just consider a bunch of old junk.
http://gizmodo.com/5988721/old-reel+to+reel-tape-recorders-put-to-innovative-use-techno
Old Reel-to-Reel Tape Recorders Put to Innovative Use: Techno
Reel-to-reel tape machines are hugely outdated these days. Justifiable reasons to use them are dwindling. Unless you are like Wouter van Veldhoven, in which case you are a tape-machine wielding musical genius.
[video=youtube_share;zHBS39_m4oI]
http://youtu.be/zHBS39_m4oI[/video]The above 14-minute jam demonstrates four different tape recorder techniques that van Veldhoven uses to make what he calls "minimal techno". It's hard to tell exactly how it's all wired together, but what you've got are a bunch of machines working together as a massive sampler and effects machine. It's hugely impressive.
The coolest part of the whole system, is the automated relay/reverse he hacked together to get around the limitations of tape. Reversed delays are a common element in music these days, but you can't do it in real-time with tape like you can with loops and delays. It's basically impossible.
With digital delay systems, you can grab a sample and flip it instantly. With tape, you would need to cut the sample, flip it, reinsert it, and wind it back. Which in the studio, whatever, but it isn't really feasible in a live setting. Van Veldhoven creatively uses two machines to simulate the effect. Not bad for what most people would just consider a bunch of old junk.
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"hugely outdated"?!?!!?!?
EDIT: There's a "making of" video on YouTube (or at least there used to be) with David Gilmour explaining and demonstrating how they constructed and played the 'cash register sounds' tape loop that pervades the recording of the song Money :-) -
mhardy6647 wrote: »"hugely outdated"?!?!!?!?
EDIT: There's a "making of" video on YouTube (or at least there used to be) with David Gilmour explaining and demonstrating how they constructed and played the 'cash register sounds' tape loop that pervades the recording of the song Money :-)
With a Roku one can pull up The Making of The Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety. Time well spent IMO. Most likely where they snagged that Money tape loop from.Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 * -
Yes, exactly so.
I don't know what a Roku is... maybe they're right about analog reel to reel decks ;-) -
Is that like Boku (bokoo [beaucoup])? Or merely the Last Samurai? Nah...I do believe it's a Kurosawa film, no wait, wrong again. I know, it's Quentin's next film, Roku Unchained While he Kills Bill in Sin City! A classic! Will probably be Tarantino's very best, and he should know, he loves his own work "more" than anyone else! There is a filmmaker who specializes in "sampling" and "looping" other people's material!
Back on topic; that is some interesting sound engineering above!
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mhardy6647 wrote: »Yes, exactly so.
I don't know what a Roku is...
It's a little box that allows you to watch what you want when you want with no commercials, via the internet on your television.
https://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Pink_Floyd_The_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon/60030169?locale=en-US
Jasper makes his choice of sources....and this cat knows what he's talkin' about.:cheesygrin:
He also gets involved with vinyl selection....
Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 * -
Cats can't thread the leader. Their whiskers get caught in the capstan.>
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He likes to help, like with running wires or air lines for air bearing tonearms through walls. A poor cell phone pic.Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
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One of our cats has been known to de-thread tape decks whilst the tape is rollin' :-( effing kittehs...
As to spring reverb tanks - got one of them there early-1970s Pioneer "hi-fi" (ahem) stereo reverbs with the "Time Tunnel" illumination on the front somewhere in the dank recesses of the basement... -
SCompRacer wrote: »With a Roku one can pull up The Making of The Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety. Time well spent IMO. Most likely where they snagged that Money tape loop from.
That is an excellent DVD. I like the explanation behind where they got the underlynig commentary that you can hear in some of the songs.Wristwatch--->Crisco
