bass in pirates of the carribbean

Airplay355
Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
edited December 2003 in Music & Movies
doc, whats goin on in this movie? im watchin it with my rti70's and the equalizer on my aiwa set on rock. sounds very nice, i like the bass alot and this is listening to it with 70's and on my aiwa. whats ur opinion on this?
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited December 2003
    I don't have any waterfall charts for this movie. Pretty strong LFE with the cannon fights, etc. Nothing terribly out of the ordinary, though - maybe 30-40 Hz stuff.

    The biggest LFE hit in the movie by far is when Capt. Jack Sparrow sees the gold medallion under water for the first time on the hottie and a huge shockwave rips across the sea. That RATTLED the room. I'd like to see a waterfall chart for that passage.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2003
    i know what ur talking about....the rti70's ignored that one lol but i knew it was supposed to be deep. is it comparable to the ring drop?
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited December 2003
    Originally posted by Airplay355
    the rti70's ignored that one


    What a surprise. :rolleyes:

    Ring Drop? Probably around the same frequency, but totally different in sonic signature. Like somebody touched off a nuke underwater.
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  • hamzahsh
    hamzahsh Posts: 439
    edited December 2003
    The LFE track is not too heavy in POTC compared LOTR-TTT-EE & T3. I enjoyed the cannon shots though.

    I recently watched LOTR-TT-EE on my new Yamaha RX-V1400 and I was totally blown away by the clarity of sound and deep bass. I recently bought Digital COAXIAL 3.3ft (Monster Interlink Datalink 100) cable. Very thick, 24k gold, solid cable. I still have to buy 2 rear channel speakers for 7.1 setup. Can't wait to watch in THX SURROUND EX all over again! and also DPLIIx for DPL movies in 7.1.

    Digital Coaxial is far better than Optical cable. It makes the hell of a difference.
    I LOVE COAX now! I used Optical for 3 years. Now, I truly believe in COAX.

    All speakers set to small and X-over @ 80hz (THX Standard) the dream of jaw-dropping sound finally come true.


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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,519
    edited December 2003
    Digital Coaxial is far better than Optical cable. It makes the hell of a difference.
    I have that same cable feeding my Marantz SR5000 which in-turn feeds my Adcom Amps. I'm surprised you were able to tell a difference. I could not between that and a Monster Fiber Optic cable. They both sounded identical to my ears. I only went COAX for durability reasons.

    The bass in Pirates is decent and compliments the soundtrack nicely without being overpowering. Yes, the medallion sea drop is excellent. Several times during a neighborhood screening last Friday it got several WOW's during some bassy moments. It was great.



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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited December 2003
    Originally posted by Dr. Spec
    The biggest LFE hit in the movie by far is when Capt. Jack Sparrow sees the gold medallion under water for the first time on the hottie and a huge shockwave rips across the sea. That RATTLED the room. I'd like to see a waterfall chart for that passage.

    Man, that sequence made the eyes widen and the mouth open. Downright scary.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited December 2003
    Originally posted by Loud & Clear
    Man, that sequence made the eyes widen and the mouth open. Downright scary.

    Try it with one of these in the loop. :cool:
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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited December 2003
    I could not agree more with all who posted on this topic especially Dr. Spec. :D When that part happened I thought my ceiling was going to cave in.
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  • Wardsweb
    Wardsweb Posts: 936
    edited December 2003
    you can never have to much bass - I run two of these 18" bass horns
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2003
    im going to go watch those parts on the M&K subwoofer. i recently got it back from the shop and its up and runnign again. its not even close to an impressive subwoofer or an accurate fast subwoofer but it digs deeper then my 70's and louder too lol.
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  • Steve@3dai
    Steve@3dai Posts: 983
    edited December 2003
    Originally posted by Wardsweb
    you can never have to much bass

    Yes you can. When it overpowers the rest of the soundtrack.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited December 2003
    Originally posted by Ron-P
    I have that same cable feeding my Marantz SR5000 which in-turn feeds my Adcom Amps. I'm surprised you were able to tell a difference. I could not between that and a Monster Fiber Optic cable. They both sounded identical to my ears. I only went COAX for durability reasons.
    Peace Out~:D
    Thanks for bringing that up Ron. I have not tried BOTH. But everyone that has CANNOT tell a difference. Especailly a night and day difference like hamzahsh is experiencing. Don't make me run out and buy another cable....lol I think DC is gaining alot of popularity recently not to mention earlier DD recievers did not even offer a DC input.
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited December 2003
    Originally posted by Wardsweb
    you can never have to much bass - I run two of these 18" bass horns

    Those horns are tasty. How about some specs & impressions?
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  • Wardsweb
    Wardsweb Posts: 936
    edited December 2003
    The drivers are McCauley 6174.

    Voice Coil Diameter 100mm / 4"
    Magnetic Coil Gap 0.4 / 10.1mm
    Magnetic Assembly Weight 26 lbs / 11.8kgs
    Flux Density 13,500 gauss
    Bl Factor 15.3 T*m(8)
    Moving Mass 0.222 kg

    Fs Free Air Resonance 20 Hz
    Re D.C. Coil Resistance 3.3(4) 5.6(8) ohms
    Qts Total Quality Factor 0.340
    Qms Mechanical Losses 2.900
    Qes Electrical Losses 0.380
    Vas Equivalent Vol of Air 25.9ft³
    Sd Effective Piston Area 199 in³
    Xmax Excursion - Max Bl 15.2 mm / 0.6"
    Vd Sd x Xmax 200 in³
    Le Inductance of V.C. 1.1 mH
    %eff Mid Band Effeciency 0.66%
    Pe Max Power Rating 800 W RMS sine wave

    Overall Diameter 462 mm / 18.20
    Overall Depth 254 mm / 10"
    Bolt Circle Diameter 444 mm / 17.5
    Baffle Cutout Diameter
    Front Mount 425.4 mm / 16.75"
    Rear Mount 419 mm / 16.5
    Net Weight 16.3 kg / 36 lbs

    The cabinets are BassMaxx B1
    4 feet by 4 feet by 22 inches

    What I like about horns is the type of bass you get. The sound if you will. It is not a punchy bass or a boomy bass. It's just fills the room, like air. It surrounds you but can still shake the foundation. I bought these after hearing them at a audio meet I went to at the designers house.
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited December 2003
    Awesome! I bet the bass quality is a lot like an IB system.

    I recently helped a friend build an IB with twin Stryke AV-15 and it sounds just how you described.
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    Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
    Director - Technology and Customer Service
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