Cool article about Emotiva CEO Dan Laufman

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited February 2013
    Nothing like mentioning Emo to get the juices flowing around here.:lol:

    I could care less, but what stuck out at me more so was the guys love for, chinese manufacturing. I just find it funny that we pick and choose who to hate and who to love while everyone does the same thing by using overseas manufacturing. Apple, Walmart, cars....just as examples. But, matters not, at least the guy is honest in his interview and that should say something.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2013
    It was probably just an oversight on the wordage that can lead one to believe that you feel Emo amps are only acceptable for HT. I quote..."I only play 2 channel music...Emo offers a lot of amp for the HT group...which I think is fine". End of quote. No big deal.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited February 2013
    naturallight wrote: »
    Yes..it's a nice read. The guy is trying to make "affordable" amps for people. Yes there all made in China..which in today's world, what is not...............

    How about ALL of the gear in my (and many other Polkies') rig. I'd like to keep it that way, thanks. Therefore, I will never purchase an Emo amp. Also, this is reply is not directed towards you directly naturallight, but towards manufacturers who make gear in China to make it "cheaper for the consumer" and for those who would purchase this gear.
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2013
    Well look at this,

    Emotiva XPA-2, 2-Channel Amplifier
    Emotiva UPA-200 2-Channel Amplifier

    So what was the point he was trying to make.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2013
    headrott wrote: »
    How about ALL of the gear in my (and many other Polkies') rig. I'd like to keep it that way, thanks. Therefore, I will never purchase an Emo amp. Also, this is reply is not directed towards you directly naturallight, but towards manufacturers who make gear in China to make it "cheaper for the consumer" and for those who would purchase this gear.

    Does this also mean you won't purchase/have any Polk speakers Headrott? You do know that while they are designed here, they also are made in China.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited February 2013
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Does this also mean you won't purchase/have any Polk speakers Headrott? You do know that while they are designed here, they also are made in China.

    Yes, I do realise this and I have all the Polk speakers I need, currently.
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2013
    Please don't say that you walk around buck naked...after all it's pretty tough to buy any clothes made here. Maybe you're good with a sewing needle. Who woulda thunk.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited February 2013
    My reference to the multi channel amps was in no way to say there 2 channel amps don't work....

    sorry if somebody got that impression......They work, there cheap..if you like them..buy them.

    To me... you might as well buy a QSC 500 watt amp......for 2 channel. 10 bucks says they sound as good.....
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  • rdb2001
    rdb2001 Posts: 791
    edited February 2013
    naturallight wrote: »
    My reference to the multi channel amps was in no way to say there 2 channel amps don't work....

    sorry if somebody got that impression......They work, there cheap..if you like them..buy them.

    To me... you might as well buy a QSC 500 watt amp......for 2 channel. 10 bucks says they sound as good.....

    You have no clue. What makes you think your onkyo is any better. Do you know the markup onkyo products? Dealer price is on their top end prepro and receivers are at least 50% below retail. Spare us the get what you pay for crap. I have owned bryston, classe, B&K, emo, adcom, and others and emo competes. It competes so well that I got rid of bryston 7bsst2 monos, a bryston 4bsst2, a bryston 5bst, a classe cav 180, and a classe ca 151 for emo's xpr series. Are they be all end all. No, but to say you might as well get a pro amp if you buy emo, you are truly fooling yourself. I dont claim emo to be the best of the best, but in my house in my room, in my system, they did more than hold their own against high brands. All of those amps were in my house at the same time and I have ads in the classifieds were I was selling them once I decided on which one I was going to keep. I am fortunate to get dealer price on alot of things I buy and u just would be amazed on the markup of audio equipment. Emo doesnt have a middle man.
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited February 2013
    Why buy an entire amplifier for less than $400, when you can spend $2000 on a 3' piece of wire? It's madness.

    Sorry to hear about the gentleman's UPA-200. I've had this amp for a few days now, powering a pair of Lsi7s. It drives the hell out of these speakers. Both speaker and amp are keepers.

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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited February 2013
    Loud & Clear wrote: »
    Sorry to hear about the gentleman's UPA-200. I've had this amp for a few days now, powering a pair of Lsi7s. It drives the hell out of these speakers. Both speaker and amp are keepers.

    Not to worry, got the new one and I love it. I'm hearing things I've never heard before from the HK3490. The only thing I have to look into is a very soft "distortion" or "graininess" in the mids. Someone on another forum suggested that I plug it directly into the wall instead of my power strip. Maybe it is struggling a little for amperage? Anyway, for $349 shipped, it would be an understatement to say that I am happy with my UPA-200. It makes my listening sessions exciting and I'm fine with that.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited February 2013
    I think one thing that is really cool about this Laufman dude is how he is open to talking about other companies gear on his own forumsite! He is even open to criticism on his own gear

    Yeah, definitely false!
    First off It's still not proven that the Amp was the cause as Emo tested it and apparently it's fine..

    It sure as hell wasn't the speaker, so what's left? The amp!
    Second "ou get what you pay" You really believe that?are you really going to tell me that certain speaker cable is not OUTRAGEOUSLY over priced, marked up by 100's of percent.

    Generally speaking, you do get what you pay for in this hobby and in life.
    Do you own Polk speakers, knowing that they have a bad resistor in them, yet still sell to customers.

    Oh JHC, for the last time it is not a bad resistor. The stock resistor is rated at 5 watts and under normal conditons with quality gear it works perfectly. However, there are folks that don't understand how gear works and the limits of their gear, mostly AVR's trying to drive 4 ohm loads. That can result in damage to that resistor. It can be replaced with a 12 watt resistor, which will handle higher temperatures, but can also result in damage to the tweeter instead of just the resistor.

    You and others need to stop blaming the resistor, it is not the problem.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited February 2013
    LMAO...no..I know how much stereo equipment is marked up..didn't say i payed the full price for the Onkyo.



    Again didn't say the Emo stuff was bad. If you like it more then the stuff you said...thats great...thats your opinion. As is my opinion...nothing more.



    But then again my stuff did not blow up speakers.....now ..NOT saying Emo stuff does. BUT...there seems to be alot more of that, then on other amps..just saying.



    I'm not here to bash Emo stuff..pretty much i could care less...I don't use it...so if you like it..rock on.

    What you think about it, is your opinion... Again..what i think about amps is pretty much useless to other people. They have to have my ear and my speakers sitting in my room.

    So my opinion is not that great.



    Pretty much...if YOU like the stuff..buy it.
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  • rdb2001
    rdb2001 Posts: 791
    edited February 2013
    Your opinion holds no merit if you have never owned the product. How are you forming an opinion that it will sound the same as a pro amp if you havent had one in your home? I dont like to get into posting about emo here but man you folks who have never owned them seem to have very strong opinions. I was like that as well until I did my own in home demo. Unlike most, I like to hear things for myself.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited February 2013
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Does this also mean you won't purchase/have any Polk speakers Headrott? You do know that while they are designed here, they also are made in China.
    headrott wrote: »
    Yes, I do realise this and I have all the Polk speakers I need, currently.

    Actually, I need to correct myself. I do own some RD0-198 tweeters in my SDA's that are made in China by Polk. Other than that, it is all made in the USA or Japan or Germany with a vast majority of it made in the USA.
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited February 2013
    I'm not sure how to say this anymore....I stated if you like it ,,BUY it....and stated MY opinon is only on what i hear in MY setup...
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited February 2013
    Can't we all just get along....
    Oh Animal likes Emo..
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,650
    edited February 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Can't we all just get along....
    Oh Animal likes Emo..
    Animal muppet.jpg

    Animal's an idiot. (And I own an Emo lol)
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited February 2013
    rdb2001 wrote: »
    You have no clue. What makes you think your onkyo is any better. Do you know the markup onkyo products? Dealer price is on their top end prepro and receivers are at least 50% below retail. Spare us the get what you pay for crap. I have owned bryston, classe, B&K, emo, adcom, and others and emo competes. It competes so well that I got rid of bryston 7bsst2 monos, a bryston 4bsst2, a bryston 5bst, a classe cav 180, and a classe ca 151 for emo's xpr series. Are they be all end all. No, but to say you might as well get a pro amp if you buy emo, you are truly fooling yourself. I dont claim emo to be the best of the best, but in my house in my room, in my system, they did more than hold their own against high brands. All of those amps were in my house at the same time and I have ads in the classifieds were I was selling them once I decided on which one I was going to keep. I am fortunate to get dealer price on alot of things I buy and u just would be amazed on the markup of audio equipment. Emo doesnt have a middle man.

    Hmmm... are you in cahoots with Emo? Come on now, be honest. Those are some heavy hitting amps you got rid of AND you get them whole sale? Hmmm...
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  • rdb2001
    rdb2001 Posts: 791
    edited February 2013
    audiocr381ve wrote: »
    Hmmm... are you in cahoots with Emo? Come on now, be honest. Those are some heavy hitting amps you got rid of AND you get them whole sale? Hmmm...

    Those were all bought on the used market. Mark at Reno Hifi sold me two of my brystons. The only amps I can get at dealer price is mcintosh, arcam, and marantz. Not in cahoots with anyone. I am not here proclaiming them to be end all but name isnt everything eiher. I said they competed well and they stayed in my house. Unlike most, I demoed all of these amps in my house at the same time with all of the same front end gear. Thats the only way to know. typical response from some of you on here. My house is open to anyone who wants to come here them. I still have a classe ca2200 here for comparision.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited February 2013
    rdb2001 wrote: »
    Those were all bought on the used market. Mark at Reno Hifi sold me two of my brystons. The only amps I can get at dealer price is mcintosh, arcam, and marantz. Not in cahoots with anyone. I am not here proclaiming them to be end all but name isnt everything eiher. I said they competed well and they stayed in my house. Unlike most, I demoed all of these amps in my house at the same time with all of the same front end gear. Thats the only way to know. typical response from some of you on here. My house is open to anyone who wants to come here them. I still have a classe ca2200 here for comparision.

    Well thanks for entertaining me and my conspiracy theories, hah.

    I've owned Emo amps as well, the XPA-2 and UPA-2. Loved both of them and wouldn't hesitate to buy another.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited February 2013
    I won't rehash my whole review from another thread... but after my first night with the XPA-3, I'd say it bests my Adcom GFA-5503 but isn't quite as nice and warm sounding as my Parasound HCA-2003. If my Parasound ends up being a lost cause repair-wise, I think I'm fine with the XPA-3 in my system. Not gonna' run around singing their praises to the heavens or anything... but at the same time, when I listen to it, I'm thinking, "Wow... this is a $600 amp?" Kudos to them for that.

    (And given the past treatment of Emotiva products here, I am surprised it took this long for this thread to explode. Heh...)
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    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited March 2013
    Devlon wrote: »
    cstmar01, not False. My profile name on the emo forum site is "islandman". What's yours? Also, how many times have you spoken tothis man in person? I have been fortunate enough to have 3 times so far.

    What you portray as a forum is incorrect. Several people will attest to that.
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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited March 2013
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    What you portray as a forum is incorrect. Several people will attest to that.

    Looks like a forum to me, I'm also a member of it. Please explain your statement and who the several people are. Not looking to start something, just curious about that.
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  • math wizard
    math wizard Posts: 106
    edited March 2013
    Great article. First class company.
    Processor - Emotiva UMC-200
    Pre-Amp (2 Ch) - Emotiva USP-1
    DSP Minidsp nanoAVR DL
    DAC (2 Ch) - Emotiva XDA-2
    Amp (Fronts) - Emotiva XPA-2
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,762
    edited March 2013
    math wizard wrote: »
    Great article. First class company.

    4 more to go. Can hardly wait....
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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited March 2013
    ken brydson wrote: »
    4 more to go. Can hardly wait....

    Wait...what did I miss?
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    Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
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  • nme medic
    nme medic Posts: 98
    edited March 2013
    Nice article thanks
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    Sub: Modded PSW1000
    Sony STR-DA4400ES
    Emotiva UPA-200 W/Black Trim
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited March 2013
    No he's not related to me..lol
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